Replacement 'Period' Window Glass.

[childrenanddogs]

Our Conservation Officer explained it to us as this - if it's needs LBC then it is zero rated, if it's anything else i.e. refurbishment or replacement, then it's not. Was a lot easier than trying to get my head around the HMRC booklet!

But surely that's a bit of a circular argument? Our council's view on LBC is that, if in doubt, apply for it and they will authorize it even though specific permission was not needed! In my case the permission for our plumbing is so general and vaguely worded that everything qualifies as an alteration, even though I know it's not. (They didn't say "permission not needed".)

Matthew
http://houseintheenchantedforest.blogspot.com/

Guess it must depend on the CO, yours is obviously far more stringent than ours. There are several things that we assumed that we'd need LBC for but which our CO is happy to approve without us needing to apply for it. For instance, our underfloor heating (that we fully expected to need LBC for), he's approved and said we didn't need LBC, but we're applying for it anyway as we don't want to pay VAT!

 

[Penners]

I was one of the children of yesteryear at the time (late 70s).

Yesteryear - late 70s?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[MatthewC]

I was one of the children of yesteryear at the time (late 70s).

Yesteryear - late 70s?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Perhaps AMc means he's in his late 70s? :wink: :wink:

 

[AMc]

As Penners has met me that seems improbable - unless he thinks I'm VERY well preserved.

 

[Penners]

Alcohol is said to be a wonderful preservative, but I think we limited ourselves to coffee, didn't we?

 

[biffvernon]

What kind of children are we raising these days? Namby pamby whinging molly-coddled little nuisances, from what I've seen. :twisted:

Not met mine then.

 

[middi]

I was one of the children of yesteryear at the time (late 70s).

Yesteryear - late 70s?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It could be 1870's ( well, we are supposed to live longer )

Middi

 

[Penners]

we are supposed to live longer

We're certainly reported as living longer, nowadays, but I'm not sure that there's any compulsion to do so. :wink:

 

[Gareth Hughes]

we are supposed to live longer

We're certainly reported as living longer, nowadays, but I'm not sure that there's any compulsion to do so. :wink:

"Though shalt not kill, but need'st not strive
Officiously to keep alive"

 

[Flyfisher]

We're certainly reported as living longer, nowadays, but I'm not sure that there's any compulsion to do so. :wink:

Terry Pratchett might have a different point of view about that. :?

 

[Penners]

"Though shalt not kill, but need'st not strive
Officiously to keep alive"

Presumably the old Norse spelling of "thou"? :wink:

 

[Penners]

We're certainly reported as living longer, nowadays, but I'm not sure that there's any compulsion to do so. :wink:

Terry Pratchett might have a different point of view about that. :?

Yes - I believe he advocates that, when you've finished reading one of his books, you should cremate it.

It then becomes a kind of compact discworld.

 

[biffvernon]

Since this thread has been comprehensively hijacked and drifted a very long way from old glass, let me introduce you to Martin metrics.

"if you pick a random Wikipedia article, click on the first blue hyperlinked word not in brackets or italics, then recursively keep on clicking on the first such word in subsequent articles, you will always end up at 'Philosophy'."

The Martin metric is the number of clicks from a given entry to "philosophy".

Further reading: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028172.500-feedback-night-of-the-sleeping-dead.html

The Martin metric for 'Period' is 13
The Martin metric for 'glass' is, coincidentally (or not?) also 13

 

[MatthewC]

At the risk of being accused of trying to get this errant thread vaguely back on topic, I have an associated question: is it feasible to re-use old window glass? I have a couple of panes from a rotten sash which has been replaced completely, and both are big enough to cut down to replace broken panes in smaller sashes. (One was broken by something which fell from the scaffolding, and the other by yours truly whilst splitting a lath...)

Is this something which I should be able to do myself with the right tools (having never cut glass before), or am I better off taking the panes to a professional?

Matthew
http://houseintheenchantedforest.blogspot.com/

 

[Penners]

Well, I'm the worst person to give advice on glass-cutting, Matthew, but I've always found it immensely difficult to cut old glass successfully. I follow all the rules - sharp cutting wheel, one score only, break it over a straightedge... and the bloody stuff still busts everywhere but where I scored it. :evil:

I wonder what Biff will have to say on the subject.

 

[biffvernon]

'Glass-cutter', Martin metric=19

I've used old glass a fair bit. I don't think it should be more tricky to cut though people often say it is. Clean the glass thoroughly first, then pretend it's a new piece. That should fool it.

 

[Penners]

Ah - philosophical glass-cutting! It's a technique I've never tried.

How wonderful to have the advice of an expert.

 

[Johnboy]

Many moons ago myself and 3 colleagues were given the job of restoring 4 ex-GPO red telephone boxes that were later used as Internal phone booths in the Benetton F1 Factory at Enstone. We were supplied with a stack of new glass, enough linseed putty to sink the Bismark and one diamond tipped glass cutter! Consequently, over the course of a fortnight I became an expert at cutting glass and glazing windows and can certainly vouch for the effectiveness of the cutter. I gather it was quite expensive but ultimately it was worth it's weight in gold.
As the glass ran out we were forced to 're-cycle' some glass from a number of old windows that were on site. These proved to be really difficult to cut compared to the new glass. I mentioned this to my late Uncle (who was an old school builder) and he told me that you should wipe the old glass with methylated spirit prior to cutting. We did this and it made a vast difference. I should love to know why :?:

 

[Penners]

you should wipe the old glass with methylated spirit prior to cutting.

Ah - spiritual glass-cutting! This just gets better and better!

 

[biffvernon]

Well I did say clean it. Meths does a good job at glass cleaning.

('Spirit' gets to Philosohy in just three moves.)