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Has that nice Mrs Cameron been eating too many Fray Bentos pies on the campaign trail?
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I've never been able to multi-task. I even find monotasking a bit of a challenge.FamilyWiggs said:
Should I get myself alacrity, too? Where do you get them? The Screwfix catalogue doesn't seem to list them.
I believe we need to update the way in which we vote...not PR or alternative vote, but the way in which people physically cast their vote.
I was in the US on election day and was unable to vote. The volcanic ash problems meant that I was too late on my return from being stranded to apply for a postal vote (as were at least 7 colleagues I know). The next alternative was to apply for a proxy vote - this was a truly painful process. You had to collect a form from your local authority (they wouldn't email it to me), then you have to complete that form, then get it countersigned by my employer (who is based 280 miles from my home address) and then post it back to the council...who then send a voting card, which I complete, which my wife could then use to vote on my behalf. :shock: Given the few days I had in the UK between trips, this was logistically impossible.
Having seen the challenges experienced by some at various polling stations, isn't it about time we looked at internet based voting?
As for Dave's suggestions that Cameron has 'sold out', I suspect that he couldn't have pleased you either way. If he refuses to compromise and forms a minority govt, then he's a 'typical ignorant tory, doesn't understand the public want parties to work together' and if he works with the LibDems hes 'so desperate for power he's prepared to agree to anything.
I was in the US on election day and was unable to vote. The volcanic ash problems meant that I was too late on my return from being stranded to apply for a postal vote (as were at least 7 colleagues I know). The next alternative was to apply for a proxy vote - this was a truly painful process. You had to collect a form from your local authority (they wouldn't email it to me), then you have to complete that form, then get it countersigned by my employer (who is based 280 miles from my home address) and then post it back to the council...who then send a voting card, which I complete, which my wife could then use to vote on my behalf. :shock: Given the few days I had in the UK between trips, this was logistically impossible.
Having seen the challenges experienced by some at various polling stations, isn't it about time we looked at internet based voting?
As for Dave's suggestions that Cameron has 'sold out', I suspect that he couldn't have pleased you either way. If he refuses to compromise and forms a minority govt, then he's a 'typical ignorant tory, doesn't understand the public want parties to work together' and if he works with the LibDems hes 'so desperate for power he's prepared to agree to anything.
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I think he's played the long game very well. He's created a powerful majority brand of social liberalism and fiscal conservatism, that tempers the extremes of both parties.
If both parties truly share government in partnership for the full term (admittedly a big if) then these are very dangerous times for Labour. Its possible that the next Labour PM may not even be an MP yet. Cameron was not elected until 8 years after the 1997 change of government...
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Penners said:
I understand she's suffering from the "Penners family affliction" - a nasty case of infection by the bacterium fecundus frequentum
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My wife says she cant bear Cameron or his wife (especially his wife for some odd reason - what has she got do do with anything?) and I just cant understand why. She says its not because of his policies.
He seems quite dapper, well mannered and polite; much less of a spiv than Blair and little discernable Old Etonian drawl or arrogance. She looks utterly charming but I dont think I have ever much thought about her let alone expressed an opinion about her until now. I had no idea she was pregnant until I saw her in profile on the telly yesterday.
One worry could be that he is too much of a Blair clone. There certainly have been some worrying symptoms, notably his at times overly slick style and his reliance on a small coterie of insiders and lack of consultation of his shadow cabinet and MPs. In the coalition Blair-like decision-making on the sofa, contempt for parliament and sidelining of the cabinet simply wont work, so he will have to be un-Blairlike in this respect to survive.
What else he might have to do to persude my Clegg-supporting wife to like him I am not sure. Perhaps the ladies can help me here. Especially on why she is so against the lovely Mrs C who, as far I can rememeber, has never put a foot wrong.
He seems quite dapper, well mannered and polite; much less of a spiv than Blair and little discernable Old Etonian drawl or arrogance. She looks utterly charming but I dont think I have ever much thought about her let alone expressed an opinion about her until now. I had no idea she was pregnant until I saw her in profile on the telly yesterday.
One worry could be that he is too much of a Blair clone. There certainly have been some worrying symptoms, notably his at times overly slick style and his reliance on a small coterie of insiders and lack of consultation of his shadow cabinet and MPs. In the coalition Blair-like decision-making on the sofa, contempt for parliament and sidelining of the cabinet simply wont work, so he will have to be un-Blairlike in this respect to survive.
What else he might have to do to persude my Clegg-supporting wife to like him I am not sure. Perhaps the ladies can help me here. Especially on why she is so against the lovely Mrs C who, as far I can rememeber, has never put a foot wrong.
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Nigel Watts said:
I think you answered your own question with respect to "the lovely Mrs C" who "has never put a foot wrong". Nothing for another girl to like about someone like that :lol: :lol: :lol: Nearly as bad as friends who are always baking and making custard !
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Oh no! I gather there's no known cure for that.FamilyWiggs said:
Well, except a two-letter word.
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LadyArowana said:
No wonder my friends husbands hate me
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LadyArowana said:
:lol: Quite. If my husband lavished half so much praise on any female as you just have I would withold favours for a week! Nigel, I think you ought to buy your wife some flowers today and tell her that Mrs C is an ugly old bag in comparison.
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Penners said:
I thought the problem only lasted about 9 months ? + a few extra days in some cases.......... how is little Egwood and Mum BTW?
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JoceAndChris said:
I can see that this might be the case if I had been expressing opinions about Samantha, but I havn't. My wife started having a go at her long before I started taking any notice. It's only now that I am trying to understand her point a view that I find myself completely at sea. Lady A may have something there. Its the image of the perfect spouse that so irritates and generates the need to find a flaw.
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That's just differences in perception Nigel - as everything about Cameron screams smug, posh & arrogant to me, whilst it seems much less apparent with Clegg - and yes, I realise Clegg is just as "posh" and I do not automatically link posh and arrogant together.
I had to laugh at the BBC's "story of Cameron" - it says that Samantha, and I quote:- has been credited with transforming her husband's "Tory boy" image. If what we're seeing now is the toned-down image, I dread to think how he came across before!
As for Mrs W disliking Samantha - I don't understand that one either, she's hardly said a word - just hovered in the backgound looking suitably supportive. But you're making a fatal mistake here - you're a man, trying to understand a woman's dislike for another woman. Can't you see that is doomed to failure??? :lol:
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Feltwell said:
Good point. Incidentally my wife, Ms P, would be mortified to be called "Mrs W"!
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Moo said:
My wife did not insist that her surname was incorporated, so both my boys have mine, unlike my Guardian journalist cousin Claire who insisted that her kids exclusively take her surname.
Being Indian my wife was keen for the boys to have indian first names but in the end we settled for one of each: my older boy is called Rishabh and the younger one William.
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SamCams a lovely lass - she must be as she was brought up in North Lincolnshire, my sister held her wedding reception at her house which I've visited many times.
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By the sound of it "SamCam"'s family own North Lincolnshire! :shock:
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The "water-cooler" talk today at work from the (mainly) ladies was how lovely SamCam was ("demure, shy and Lady Di-like") and how impeccably well-mannered and protective of her DaveCam was last night.
Even some of the trot voters seemed to have warmed to his manners. "Well brought up" seemed to be the consensus.
For myself, I was struck by how much the Cameron & Clegg press conference in the garden looked like a civil partnership!
Even some of the trot voters seemed to have warmed to his manners. "Well brought up" seemed to be the consensus.
For myself, I was struck by how much the Cameron & Clegg press conference in the garden looked like a civil partnership!