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Quite right FF - our female breathen seem well evolved to rest whilst watching daytime TV during their long daytime "quiet" periods. :roll:
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The "mother will get a chance to rest by napping during the day" theory may work with child number 1, but if you've already got 2 other children aged 5 and under, then the chances of having a rest whilst child number 3 has a nap are very slim. In fact there are 2 chances - Fat and Slim.
Ooooooo, get me, I've gone all PC. Right, back to innuendo and vulgarity as usual, this will never do....... :wink: Where's Penners? Innuendo required!
Ooooooo, get me, I've gone all PC. Right, back to innuendo and vulgarity as usual, this will never do....... :wink: Where's Penners? Innuendo required!
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Well, I wouldn't say that exactly . . . .FamilyWiggs said:
. . . . not brave enough!
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Fair point, but we decided to avoid that particular problem, so you've only got yourselves to blame. :wink:Feltwell said:
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Yes, I've had all the comments at work - "You need a better telly" etc etc. And all the mickey-taking for selling my car and buying a people carrier!
Still, at least I have someone else to laugh at (& with, I hasten to add). One of our warehouse supervisors, who has 6 kids, has just become a Grandfather. He's only 36 !
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Penners has been grinding his teeth to dust, trying (and failing) to prevent himself from responding to Tuesday's little post from someone not a million miles away:Feltwell said:
Fed up WITH...
Bored WITH...
Penners will now crawl away and beat his breast with guilt, for having been so grumpy and pedantic.
But he won't change.
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Two whole days of bottling that one up can't have been good for poor Penners. No wonder "/grump off" wasn't working for him. :wink:
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Ohh dear. Penners, at 37 I already feel I'm old enough to deserve the right to be grumpy and pedantic on occasions. Enjoy it, you've earnt it. On a scale from nothing to Geoffrey Palmer, how do you score?
My apologies for my "of it / with" error. My pet hate - people that say "That'll learn him" rather than "That will teach him". Anyone that uses "Hiya!" as a greeting. Personalised number plates. People who dawdle. Text speak. Umbrellas. McDonalds. I'll stop now, or I'll be here all night.
My apologies for my "of it / with" error. My pet hate - people that say "That'll learn him" rather than "That will teach him". Anyone that uses "Hiya!" as a greeting. Personalised number plates. People who dawdle. Text speak. Umbrellas. McDonalds. I'll stop now, or I'll be here all night.
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Nevedr mind Geoffrey Palmer - Penners goes right up the scale to Walter Matthau sometimes. I could of told you that...
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Goodness me,I've just read through this post from start to finish, way off track!!!
Anyway Joce, you'll find that the lovely Brownie badge shine on your knobs will self clean by people using the them to open close the doors--- who remembers good old Lucie Clayton, place book on head, walk down the stairs, turn the door knob to open, walk through, close the door behind you without turning your back on the room, proceed in a straight line without dropping the book!! there, simple, self polishing knobs!
Ilona you are amazing, military precision!
Anyway Joce, you'll find that the lovely Brownie badge shine on your knobs will self clean by people using the them to open close the doors--- who remembers good old Lucie Clayton, place book on head, walk down the stairs, turn the door knob to open, walk through, close the door behind you without turning your back on the room, proceed in a straight line without dropping the book!! there, simple, self polishing knobs!
Ilona you are amazing, military precision!
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jocelyn plummer said:
Oh, I did that over and over as a girl, even now after so many bottles of wine balance comes so easily to me, helped of course by the aging process, which sends everything floorwards. :x
But, yes, the knobs get daily contact, so should only need doing every 6 months or so.
I'm halfway now with the doors, architraves, and frames. 2 months - so should be finished by end of April. I never, ever thought decorating a hallway could take so long!
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EVERYTHING? :roll:
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Thank you so much for your elegant apology, Feltwell. In future, just bear in mind that I've got my eye on you.Feltwell said:
Geoffrey Palmer? Rank amateur. I score two Geoffrey Palmers and a Jack Dee.
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Geoffrey Palmer is no rank amateur - he narrates the "Grumpy Old Men" television series, therefore deserving the title of "professional" in the grumpy league I feel. However, if you are feeling grumpy you could still accuse him of being a incompetent professional, if you felt that under his grumpy veneer lies a happy and contented soul.
2 Geoffrey Palmers and a Jack Dee? That must be almost a Victor Meldrew!
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Sorry, I don't have the time to read all the replies so apologies if other ppl have already given you the same answers.
1. Remove the door furniture to clean it, absolutely. If the screws will not remove of thier own accord (especially if they are brass) then carefully drill them out with a small metal bit (easy if they are brass) then just replace with new screws.
2. Dip furniture in big metal or polypropylene (any gallon washing agent or paint container etc cut off at the top) container. Buy the thin Nitromors yellow or similar. And leave them overnight. Clean off with a stiff nylon brush, please remember goggles, long gloves and be careful of your face.
3. Once rinsed off, remove any underlying tarnish with 0000 or 000 grade wire wool (if you use 000 grade to remove deep tarnish then move onto 0000 grade afterwards) either with oxalic acid solution or brasso. T cut or similar paint cutting compounds will give a more aggresive cut, followed by brasso which has a finer abrasive, you can use T cut with 000 then follow up with brasso with 0000 wire wool. For a super bright finish finally hand finish with Autosol chrome and metal polish (from Halfords or similar) using an old flannel and buff up with a yellow duster or other soft cloth. When final finishing use plenty of fresh cloths as any contamination will leave fine scratches (ie do not use a cloth originally used for T cut with brasso etc. Use plenty of fresh cloths) This should leacve you with an almost perfect mirror finish. This will start to tarnish staright away so either reduce this by spraying a layer or two of automotive clear metal lacquer (from Halfords etc) this slightly reduces the sheen but stops the tarnish for many months or years, clean gently afterwards with a damp cloth wrung out in a washing up liquid and water solution every week and buff gently dry. Alternatively apply a thin layer of clear furniture (beeswax) you will need to buff up with brasso or autosol and reapply the beeswax every week or so, depending on how much the handles are used (and how sweaty your hands are...)
4. Scrape off the loose paint from the crack and rake out the crack carefully to remove any loose material, make the crack and surrounding area smooth with sanding paper. Mask up the area carefully with either gaffa tape or if the paint is fresh or very old with two layers of masking tape (2in wide) fill the gap with a two part curing wood filler like Ronseal professional or either a two part bodyfiller like isopon P45 etc or whatever its called these days from Halfords etc. Look on the back of the tin/tube/pack, any Two part polyester filler with a benzyl peroxide catalyst will be suitable. Actually I find the wood fillers to be very expensive and slightly coaser grained. I prefer to use U pol smooth seven car body filler, this is EXACTLY the same stuff as two part wood fill;ers except several times cheaper and several times smoother.
5. You may need to apply two or three layers, try and smooth off carefully as soon as you apply it with a straight edge or scraper blade. Whilst it is still soft and setting, say after 5 to 10 mins remove any excess and any filler that is proud with a new sharp stanley 1992 knife balde (Irwin bimetal are good) once dry smooth off. It should be fully 'dry' or 'cured' within a couple of hours and is then ready to paint.
Regards
Toby
Sorry, I don't have the time to read all the replies so apologies if other ppl have already given you the same answers.
1. Remove the door furniture to clean it, absolutely. If the screws will not remove of thier own accord (especially if they are brass) then carefully drill them out with a small metal bit (easy if they are brass) then just replace with new screws.
2. Dip furniture in big metal or polypropylene (any gallon washing agent or paint container etc cut off at the top) container. Buy the thin Nitromors yellow or similar. And leave them overnight. Clean off with a stiff nylon brush, please remember goggles, long gloves and be careful of your face.
3. Once rinsed off, remove any underlying tarnish with 0000 or 000 grade wire wool (if you use 000 grade to remove deep tarnish then move onto 0000 grade afterwards) either with oxalic acid solution or brasso. T cut or similar paint cutting compounds will give a more aggresive cut, followed by brasso which has a finer abrasive, you can use T cut with 000 then follow up with brasso with 0000 wire wool. For a super bright finish finally hand finish with Autosol chrome and metal polish (from Halfords or similar) using an old flannel and buff up with a yellow duster or other soft cloth. When final finishing use plenty of fresh cloths as any contamination will leave fine scratches (ie do not use a cloth originally used for T cut with brasso etc. Use plenty of fresh cloths) This should leacve you with an almost perfect mirror finish. This will start to tarnish staright away so either reduce this by spraying a layer or two of automotive clear metal lacquer (from Halfords etc) this slightly reduces the sheen but stops the tarnish for many months or years, clean gently afterwards with a damp cloth wrung out in a washing up liquid and water solution every week and buff gently dry. Alternatively apply a thin layer of clear furniture (beeswax) you will need to buff up with brasso or autosol and reapply the beeswax every week or so, depending on how much the handles are used (and how sweaty your hands are...)
4. Scrape off the loose paint from the crack and rake out the crack carefully to remove any loose material, make the crack and surrounding area smooth with sanding paper. Mask up the area carefully with either gaffa tape or if the paint is fresh or very old with two layers of masking tape (2in wide) fill the gap with a two part curing wood filler like Ronseal professional or either a two part bodyfiller like isopon P45 etc or whatever its called these days from Halfords etc. Look on the back of the tin/tube/pack, any Two part polyester filler with a benzyl peroxide catalyst will be suitable. Actually I find the wood fillers to be very expensive and slightly coaser grained. I prefer to use U pol smooth seven car body filler, this is EXACTLY the same stuff as two part wood fill;ers except several times cheaper and several times smoother.
5. You may need to apply two or three layers, try and smooth off carefully as soon as you apply it with a straight edge or scraper blade. Whilst it is still soft and setting, say after 5 to 10 mins remove any excess and any filler that is proud with a new sharp stanley 1992 knife balde (Irwin bimetal are good) once dry smooth off. It should be fully 'dry' or 'cured' within a couple of hours and is then ready to paint.
Regards
Toby
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Thanks Toby, wonderful advice as ever and very timely as I'm in the middle of all this.
That's a great idea, I'll try it. We got all the door furniture off, eventually, and after many hours with a toothbrush and Nitromors, heaps of cloths as you say, and Brasso, achieved a mirror shine.
Why didn't I think of that? That'll save hours of sanding to get the Ronseal stuff off where you don't want it to be.
Again, very useful - thanks. I'm really glad you can't see the cracks I filled not using any of these techniques!
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That's a great idea, I'll try it. We got all the door furniture off, eventually, and after many hours with a toothbrush and Nitromors, heaps of cloths as you say, and Brasso, achieved a mirror shine.
Toby Newell said:
Why didn't I think of that? That'll save hours of sanding to get the Ronseal stuff off where you don't want it to be.
Toby Newell said:
Again, very useful - thanks. I'm really glad you can't see the cracks I filled not using any of these techniques!
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Toby Newell said:
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:evil: First Wickes, now Halfords. Oh for the days when my beat was Harvey Nicks and Fortnum and Masons. But thanks, I'll add Halfords to the shopping round.