Athers1971
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A few more detail pictures....
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Ok, that fits. Perfectly reasonable based on the construction and patination that these are original period. If pushed I would of said later C.17th rather than earlier as often the earlier doors were multi panel (15 or 18) but the peg construction, cock beading and colour all fit. They have probably been stripped at some point as they were often stained dark in period, but they look remarkably good. No cracks in the panels, they must have been fielded well. Throwing them out would have been beyond foolish.
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Pegs have risen nicely, that takes a while, all beads hand drawn, blacksmithed furniture, no reason why these cannot be period. Whether they came with the house or were a later addition is another matter. What about the frames and other doors? I thought I saw elm in the original photo.
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It's harder to place a date on architectural features than furniture, especially in rural locations as it was only in big cities where the affluent followed the fashions with more dedication. It's often a good idea to look at the place as a whole including all surviving woodwork and the frames. I have only seen a postage stamp sized photo of your house but as I said,my initial thought would have been later C17th rather than earlier.
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Lines, lines, lines, vertical with repeated notches on the lines, maybe something slung over the door repeatedly? Something with a chain or strap with a metal part, bridle or some other equestrian accoutrements? Large lead? Something like that.
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1660 is my final answer...
What do they feel like? What’s the profile of indent? I’m guessing smooth and rounded…
Looks like something has struck it to me. Who knows what or why in such a repetitive pattern…
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What is an Archaeological Building Record? A bloke or woman pops round, has a look and takes a guess? Good luck! You can normally get clues doing local historical research, houses were often built together, sometimes organised by a local businessman or related to some business event, for example the setting up of a farm or factory (bit early for that) Sometimes there was an order from the Lord of the manor and this was recorded and these things can corroborate or deny dates based on building style, materials and construction techniques. Buildings were often built in chunks after some economic event made the locality favourable for increased habitation. This may be related to local churches, manor houses, schools, pubs! or municipal buildings so it's always good to survey all other period buildings in the area for which there may be extant records. I can normally date properties to within 100 years, less for urban dwellings from the 1700's but you usually need documentary evidence from other sources to hone it down. I would not trust one persons guess based on their limited experience simply on how things look. Exciting though if they do their homework.