Hallway decorating

[jocelyn plummer]

Oh rats----the images are scanned into my folder and have uploaded but where are they
Any ideas?

 

[ilona73]

Oh rats----the images are scanned into my folder and have uploaded but where are they
Any ideas?

when you uploaded them to here did you then press the button to place them inline? if not they wont show. :wink:

 

[jocelyn plummer]

Yup, I did!! I've just transferred them to my pictures, and I'll try again!

 

[ilona73]

Yup, I did!! I've just transferred them to my pictures, and I'll try again!

Its been odd round here tonight !

 

[jocelyn plummer]

Second go!!

Ah, it says extension document not allowed! I'll try another way tomorrow Apologies Folks.

 

[JoceAndChris]

Please do keep trying to post them Joss, I'm longing to see!

I agree with Gareth "Malahide" is keeping with this cottage orné - though it is a copy of a paper from 1820 and BC is probably a bit earlier.

I heard from Mr Skinner this morning and have ordered a sample to see if it really is the dire quality that Nigel fears! The price is horrific. 180 euros per roll and 20 euros per border section.

The instructions he sends along are mind-bendingly complex, to me at any rate. Malahide is comprised of two papers. Firstly you must paste up this stripe paper, shown on the right, along the wall under the dado:

Then you must chop up the border into three and paste it over the top to form an upper, lower, and middle border.

However, as I have mentioned I only have 70cm to play with, and the border section is 55cm. This means I either have a tiny tiny section of the stripe showing, or I cut the border into skinnier sections which compromises its proportions.

The other alternative is to pull the dado rail off the wall and have Malahide all the way up. Does anyone know when dado rails came in? I think mine's been there a longish time, and it's been fitted snugly into the architrave so if I pulled it off I'd then have to replace, or patch that, which seems a great shame as I think the architrave is original.

 

[JoceAndChris]

You're starting to scare me now. I thought I'd been quite careful when budgeting for our project and allowing for all the money I would save by doing a lot of the work myself - but all that was mainly for the building work. Now you're talking about £100 rolls of wallpaper and £2000 of fabric for one room without any labour - and I'm nowhere near approaching Nigel's skill-level in that regard, so scant savings there. If I can't keep ahead of budget for the building works it looks like we'll be down to woodchip and beige emulsion for decorating purposes. :shock:

you dont have to buy everything new and pay top dollar... some of the most interesting pieces of fabric etc and furniture is the pre loved items . There are all sorts of resources for fabrics and wallpaper.. its just a case of knowing where to look and how to get the best discounts... And that is what adds to the fun! :wink:

Absolutely! The excellent quality wallpaper at half price, the bargains at auction - these are the really fun bits of doing up your house! And you can get a great effect for not much money, and if you aren't obsessed with silk and velvet so much the better!

 

[Nigel Watts]

Please do keep trying to post them Joss, I'm longing to see!

Ditto! I am particularly intrigued by the lantern. I have been wanting one for my hall but not bitten the bullet yet.

I agree with Gareth "Malahide" is keeping with this cottage orné - though it is a copy of a paper from 1820 and BC is probably a bit earlier.

I heard from Mr Skinner this morning and have ordered a sample to see if it really is the dire quality that Nigel fears! !

Joce I do like this paper, and I agree with Gareth that it would look great in your hall, especially with the slightly gothic entrance porch and door. Its stone colour would also chime with the early 19thC fashion.

I would not go so far as to say Skinner's papers are dire, I just question whether they are as good or authentic as block printed papers and if the price is similar they may not be the best buy for the money.

Your images unfortunately are not coming through either.

 

[Nigel Watts]

Joce here is some more about gothic wallpapers, which have a history going way back into the 18th C:

http://www.vam.ac.uk/collections/prints_books/features/Wallpaper/architectural/index.html

And here is a bit more about wallpaper printing techniques:

http://www.cole-and-son.com/what_we_do.asp

Coles, whose factory used to be about half a mile from our house, can still print many paper designs to order from its extensive archive, which you cant see online, but price and mininmum order quanities (10 rolls) would be a serious obstacle I fear.

 

[Penners]

I should paint the hall terracotta below the dado and a soft salmon above it. All woodwork in a creamy white.

Oh my goodness! Look...

Seriously - I really like that colour scheme.

 

[Flyfisher]

you dont have to buy everything new and pay top dollar... some of the most interesting pieces of fabric etc and furniture is the pre loved items . There are all sorts of resources for fabrics and wallpaper.. its just a case of knowing where to look and how to get the best discounts... And that is what adds to the fun! :wink:

Absolutely! The excellent quality wallpaper at half price, the bargains at auction - these are the really fun bits of doing up your house! And you can get a great effect for not much money, and if you aren't obsessed with silk and velvet so much the better!

Furniture-wise, I'm familiar enough with auctions and am not concerned on that front but I've never considered them for walpapers and fabrics etc. Indeed, I can't recall ever seeing such items in sales so I've obviously not found the right places to search. But I'm now looking forward to learning.

 

[jocelyn plummer]

I have had another go, but the pics seemed to be saved in my pictures as a word document, and that is classified on here as an 'extension document, not allowed'.

When 'im indoors' is around I'll see what else I can do.

 

[Flyfisher]

If you open the word document, you may be able to 'right-click' on the photo and 'save picture' (or 'image' or whatever) to a local folder. Save the picture as a jpg file if it gives you the option.

 

[Gareth Hughes]

The other alternative is to pull the dado rail off the wall and have Malahide all the way up. Does anyone know when dado rails came in? I think mine's been there a longish time, and it's been fitted snugly into the architrave so if I pulled it off I'd then have to replace, or patch that, which seems a great shame as I think the architrave is original.

How about stencilling a similar pattern to suit the scale you have available?

http://www.stencil-library.co.uk/docs/cat057.htm

You'll be changing your name to Beckford Walpole Tennyson-D'Eyncourt , and the house to Bayons Cottage rather than Beacon Cottage by the end of this year...

 

[Penners]

some of the most interesting pieces of fabric etc and furniture is the pre loved items.

Did your career ever take you into second-hand car sales? Terms like "pre loved" ( :x ) seem redolent of that trade's purple prose. :wink:

 

[Moo]

If I can't keep ahead of budget for the building works it looks like we'll be down to woodchip and beige emulsion for decorating purposes. :shock:

Don't let them scare you about curtains, Mike. You can create a really splendid effect by using something dirt cheap, so that you can be uber-generous with quantity, and treating it as though it's top-of-the-range stuff.
The fabric for the most successful curtains I've ever made was genuine decorators' dustsheets. They come in such huge sizes that you can be really generous with the width, and they don't even need lining - just fold them in half lengthways and make extra-posh headings (mine were goblet pleats, which always look classy). I used thick fancy cording down the sides where the two layers had to be joined together (by hand of course, Nigel). And though I say it as shouldn't, they still look pretty snazzy.


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The only thing you have to worry about is shrinkage (dust-sheets don't expect to be washed!). I wouldn't advise pre-shrinking at home, because they have to be ironed when slightly damp, and it's no joke when you're handling half an acre of the stuff. My solution was to send them to the laundry, and to allow very generous hems just in case.

 

[JoceAndChris]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I have a sneaking envy for Moo's glorious dust sheet curtains, I must say. It's quite terrible to be burdened with so much pretension, and Mr P, you're so adorably laissez-faire with colours, it makes me quite ashamed. However, there's nothing to be done - we are who we are - I will have my Gothick cottage orné decor, and change my name to Jocelyn Beckford Walpole Tennyson-D'Eyncourt, and you will all laugh (except Nigel), and that's that.

 

[JoceAndChris]

http://www.stencil-library.co.uk/docs/cat057.htm

It's an interesting idea; on what? Painted plaster? Lining paper that's been painted?

 

[JoceAndChris]

Joce here is some more about gothic wallpapers, which have a history going way back into the 18th C:

http://www.vam.ac.uk/collections/prints_books/features/Wallpaper/architectural/index.html
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Such a fascinating link Nigel, thankyou so much. Here is an excerpt:

"Architectural papers in a variety of styles were available from the mid18th century, and continued to be popular until the mid 19th century. As well as elaborate renderings of sculpture, architectural features, and plaster-work, there were papers printed as trompe l'oeil imitations of masonry, marble, and later, brickwork, tiling and woodgrain. As early as 1690 Edward Butling's stock included papers in imitation of 'Wainscot' (wood-panelling) and 'Marble'. By 1795 a Parisian manufacturer, Durolin, was offering an extensive range: 'architectural ornaments in grisaille and highlighted with gold, papers imitating Brazil wood and book spines of all sizes, grillework imitating that of bookcases, open as well as closed, trellising, brickwork, stonework, ashlar, marbles, granites, columns, pilasters, margents, banisters, cornices, architraves, statues, swags, parterres, corners, borders, panelling and overdoors of all kinds.' "

I'm cross beyond words that this kind of paper is no longer readily available. I take Nigel's point that it can be made to order but that will be even more insanely costly that Mr Skinner's Malahide. Surely I'm not the only person who would like something authentic for their hall?

 

[Penners]

The fabric for the most successful curtains I've ever made was genuine decorators' dustsheets.

And of course they come with their own completely unique, hand-painted pattern already in place.

Just be sure to check that the decorator has finished with them.