Drilling a hole

[Flyfisher]

Good to see you back here again Middi. I've almost finished with your tile-cutter by the way.

 

[robgil]

ha ha , where have you been lurking?

 

[middi]

Not a problem Flyfisher, ( I 've found the other one which is much better)

Keep it . You will need it, I am sure

ps:- My daughter will be moving in the restored cottage in two weeks ( THANK GOD !!!!!!)

Middi

My apologies to Biff ( we have hijacked his thread)

 

[middi]

ha ha , where have you been lurking?

Hi Rogbil, I have been incarcerated in my daughter's cottage with just food and water( :wink: ) with a promise of release when it is finished. Just out on parole for a couple of weeks, then;-

-----A FREE MAN-----

Middi

 

[robgil]

well if you get bored you can come and restore my cottage if you like.
i can offer food water and beer?

 

[Flyfisher]

Not a problem Flyfisher, ( I 've found the other one which is much better)

Keep it . You will need it, I am sure

That's very kind of you, but I'd feel even more guilty than I do for hanging on to it for so long. OK, just a few more weeks then, while I finish the shower. :wink:
Anyway, returning it will be a good excuse to see the newly finished cottage!

[OK, normal service can now be resumed . . . apologies to all)

 

[robgil]

your fuel bills must be tremendous , two week long showers , i thought i was bad taking 20 minutes.

 

[biffvernon]

delivering us our plastic cups , paper plates, disposable barbecues and luminous plastic jesus's.

I manage a pretty good life without any of those things, but you're about right about things not changing till we run of oil. Of course we never will run out of oil, we'll just run out of the cheap and easy to get at oil that has powered the world economy. That's why things are going to change sooner than many expect.

God made us out of food - love it Middi.

 

[FamilyWiggs]

delivering us our plastic cups , paper plates, disposable barbecues and luminous plastic jesus's.

I manage a pretty good life without any of those things, but you're about right about things not changing till we run of oil. Of course we never will run out of oil, we'll just run out of the cheap and easy to get at oil that has powered the world economy. That's why things are going to change sooner than many expect.

Well, not necessarily according to the New York Times this week:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/17/business/energy-environment/17FUEL.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&adxnnl=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1290060000-TKXA0N7S9bfl3uRCaHpuFQ

It's a worry if you buy into the whole carbon thing though - add in growth in China, Brazil, India, etc and the centre of PPUK gravity will move from the lowlands in the east to the highlands in the West as sea levels rise! :shock:

 

[middi]

well if you get bored you can come and restore my cottage if you like.
i can offer food water and beer?

Thanks for the offer Robgil.

Unfortunately I have reached that transient stage of life where I find great enjoyment watching other people work ( whilst I drink their beer :wink: )

I can certainly do that in your case if I come your way during my, planned, extensive travels up and down the Country to admire the beatifully varied vernacular bulding scenery on offer. ( I have purchased a brand new caravan to do it in !!!!!).

I HATE bumming around airport lounges and custom protocolls they make you feel like a criminal.

Rgds

Middi

 

[biffvernon]

Well, not necessarily according to the New York Times this week:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/17/business/energy-environment/17FUEL.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&adxnnl=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1290060000-TKXA0N7S9bfl3uRCaHpuFQ

It's a worry if you buy into the whole carbon thing though - add in growth in China, Brazil, India, etc and the centre of PPUK gravity will move from the lowlands in the east to the highlands in the West as sea levels rise! :shock:

A very silly article form the NY times! But we're unlikely to see much more than a metre of sea level rise over the century.

 

[Moo]

That centre of gravity theory just isn't terrifying enough to make us change our ways. We need something stronger - like this:
By the time they've finished sucking out all the gas and oil the earth's crust will be a veritable honeycomb, unable to withstand the pressure from deep inside, and the planet will explode.

 

[Schoolmarm]

Depending on your definition of abuse, it could probably be argued that all countries abuse animals to some extent.

Skinning dogs whilst alive, skinning whilst being hung up alive then blowtorched all over. These are my definitions of abuse.

All the deliberately painful methods of killing animals in the belief it tastes better???? If it tastes so good why eat it in all the sauces they use?


Before anyone says these are isolated incidents, they are most certainly not.

 

[FamilyWiggs]

That centre of gravity theory just isn't terrifying enough to make us change our ways.

I was joking Moo - just highlighting that as the sea levels flood East Angular and all the places lower then Holland that most PPUKers seem to live in, the few of us in the West and Wales will be the mainstay of the forum!

I'm OK for another 65,000 years at predicted rises - so won't be buying flood insurance just yet. Living on a 45o slope I think flooding is probably physically impossible here... although I suppose a landslide might do for us! :shock:

 

[Feltwell]

Living on a 45o slope I think flooding is probably physically impossible here...

Don't be quite so sure - there was a report I saw a while ago where a house halfway up a very steep hill had become flooded, albeit very briefly. The water came rushing down the hill, through the house and out again - made a hell of a mess.

We had bad flooding round here 3 years ago - we've lucky to be on a high spot, the cellar flooded but only to a depth of about 3". Further down the road people were not so lucky. It was just groundwater levels - as soon as I pumped the cellar out it flooded again, after a few dry days the water just disappeared as the groundwater levels dropped.

 

[Moo]

I must confess that I get a rather selfish glow of satisfaction when I make one of my rare trips to the doctor:
across the road, down a hill, across another road, down a steeper hill, across a road, down a steep flight of steps, across another road, and only then do I cross a bridge across the river. I reckon that a lot of Norwich would be under water before it began to lap at my front door.

 

[middi]

I must confess that I get a rather selfish glow of satisfaction when I make one of my rare trips to the doctor:
across the road, down a hill, across another road, down a steeper hill, across a road, down a steep flight of steps, across another road, and only then do I cross a bridge across the river. I reckon that a lot of Norwich would be under water before it began to lap at my front door.

Hi Moo.

You sound just like God soon after he had created Adam

God:- " Could you do something for me Adam ? "

Adam:- " of course I will Lord"

God:- " go up that hill and......"

Adam:- " what is a hill Lord" ( and God explains)

God:- ".... down the hill into the valley"

Adam:-" what's a valley" (and God explains)

God:- " across the plain and......."

Adam:- " what is a plain Lord" ( and God explains)

God:- " ....and into a cave"

Adam:- " what is a cave" ( and the Lord explains again)

God:- "... in the cave you find a woman, once there I would like you to procreate"

Adam " ( totally confused) what is procreate"

God explains " procreate" and is starting to wonder about the sanity of his creation.
Meanwhile Adam is running with great anticipation up the hill,down the hill,into the valley, across the plain and into the cave where this beatifull woman is there waitinng for him.

God, sitting down exhausted and pondering about his creations has his deep creative thoughts shattered five minutes later by an out of breath Adam and asks God:-
....................." What's and headache"...........

 

[Penners]

Middi my dear chap - welcome back! I hope you'll be sticking around this time!

Back on the subject of buying Chinese goods (or anything made in furrin parts), I was impressed by a pithy poster campaign that's running in Australia at the moment.

Big hoardings shout:

Buy jobs for your kids.

Buy Australian.

 

[middi]

HI Penners.

I sincerelly hope to stick around ( been too focussed on restoration, talking about it felt like a busman's holiday). Nice to be back.

 

[robgil]

well if you get bored you can come and restore my cottage if you like.
i can offer food water and beer?

Thanks for the offer Robgil.

Unfortunately I have reached that transient stage of life where I find great enjoyment watching other people work ( whilst I drink their beer :wink: )

I can certainly do that in your case if I come your way during my, planned, extensive travels up and down the Country to admire the beatifully varied vernacular bulding scenery on offer. ( I have purchased a brand new caravan to do it in !!!!!).

I HATE bumming around airport lounges and custom protocolls they make you feel like a criminal.

Rgds

Middi

You are more than welcome to pop in Midi,just give me a day or two in advance to get some cold ones in the fridge although at this time of year i am more of a Jamesons and irish coffee man my self.