Condensation inside secondary glazing.

[Flyfisher]

Surely that would be the gentleman's gentleman doing it for himself?

 

[Penners]

Absolutely not! No self-respecting gentleman's gentleman worthy of the title would be seen without his jacket.

In fact, I strongly suspect that the person in the picture is probably a tradesman in disguise!

 

[88v8]

Judging by the run of the grain, he is pushing on a spokeshave. I don't think a tradesman would do that.

When I started work in the 60s, it was de rigeur for gentleman to wear their jackets. I recall in the summer of 76, a sustained heatwave such as this is shaping up to be, we were sweltering in our 1950s office. Exceptionally, the Chairman walked round to advise that gentleman might remove their jackets, and was put out to discover that most had already done so.

Ivor

 

[agbagb]

Good to hear the holes are working.

On condensation. Single glazed sliding sash windows work as self draining dehumidifiers, condesation builds up and should run down, draining through the meeting rails and between the bottom sash and staff bead to the out side. Most retrofit draught proofing are plastic flap types, these stop the flow so water collects and of course stops the air flow that would dry things out. A brush seal is better so water can drain through and will be vapour permeable allowing it to dry out. The sand sausage should work just as well!

Just a thought, if one window is left as single glazing deliberately to collect condensation would the energy loss be less than running a dehumidifier? With a little thought even a fixed casment type could be made with a collection gutter and drain.

Jacketless Gentalmen I'm afraid is a sign of modern times, who knows how far standards will drop in future.

 

[Flyfisher]

Jacketless Gentalmen I'm afraid is a sign of modern times, who knows how far standards will drop in future.

I was shocked to hear a discussion on R4 yesterday concerning the practice of chaps ('gentlemen' seems inappropriate in this context) going to work in shorts. Shorts I tell you! They even had some upstart from a tailoring company suggesting that suits can now be tailored with matching shorts. A suit with shorts? The world is going mad. Whatever is wrong with a linen suit for the warmer months?

 

[tobydog]

I have the misfortune of working in London and commuting on hot and sweaty trains. A linen suit is fine if you put it on freshly pressed and then don't move, or even sit down, all day. If you do then you shortly end up looking like a long forgotten hanky that you regrettably find in a long forgotten trouser pocket. In other words - pants. Linen suits should stay in / on the glossy magazines / catwalk.

 

[Flyfisher]

I've always thought that creases were part of the charm of linen suits. There again, the smoothing iron is not a heavily used appliance in the FF household so perhaps we're used to creases. :lol:

 

[Penners]

Sorry Toby but you're missing the point about linen suits. They're supposed to look wrinkled and baggy. A true gentleman will wear his for weeks in the summer, without pressing it. The trousers will be held up by a roughly knotted old school tie. His necktie (obviously a colour tie from Oxbridge) will have a few strawberry stains (from Wimbledon) or Pimms stains (from Henley) on it, and of course the ensemble will be finished off by a battered and threadbare Panama hat.

That's true noblesse.

 

[Penners]

the smoothing iron is not a heavily used appliance in the FF household

I was recently amazed to discover, FF, that one can now purchase smoothing irons powered by electricity. There's no need to place them on the range for half-an-hour to heat up!

Isn't science wonderful?!

 

[DJH]

It is Penners. I've got one somewhere which has a preheated iron block inserted into the iron reducing the chance of soot or smuts getting onto the face of the iron when it's standing on a range or trivet near a fire. Skidmarks on linen are not good... :lol:

Doug

 

[tobydog]

Sorry Toby but you're missing the point about linen suits. They're supposed to look wrinkled and baggy. A true gentleman will wear his for weeks in the summer, without pressing it. The trousers will be held up by a roughly knotted old school tie. His necktie (obviously a colour tie from Oxbridge) will have a few strawberry stains (from Wimbledon) or Pimms stains (from Henley) on it, and of course the ensemble will be finished off by a battered and threadbare Panama hat.

That's true noblesse.

Sorry Penners but I think they look truly awful and one will never find a home in my wardrobe. The problem is that they look so bad from the back and the person wearing the suit can't normally see that part or the people pointing and laughing at them from behind (that's me :lol: ).

 

[Lime]

Speaking personally it is not what the suit looks like it, is how you wear it.
Some people always look like a sack of potatoes in the best money can buy.

 

[Penners]

Some people always look like a sack of potatoes in the best money can buy.

Whereas I cleverly manage to look like a sack of potatoes on a meagre budget.

 

[DJH]

Bag of spanners me Penners, imperial of course, and along with my white stockings (something to do with clots I think!) a sight to behold. An Englishman abroad...

Doug

 

[Flyfisher]

Well, sack of potatoes or not, I've travelled far and wide in linen suits and wouldn't swap for anything.

At least Penners understands.

 

[Penners]

Well, sack of potatoes or not, I've travelled far and wide in linen suits and wouldn't swap for anything.

At least Penners understands.

Indeed I understand - just so long as you were never vulgar enough to take your jacket off. :wink:

 

[tobydog]

Well, sack of potatoes or not, I've travelled far and wide in linen suits and wouldn't swap for anything.

At least Penners understands.

FF - just to get this thread back on topic (a Bob Monkhouse specialty), you can at least rest easy in the knowledge that you will never experience condensation inside your linen suit

 

[Penners]

just to get this thread back on topic (a Bob Monkhouse specialty)

Funny - I've been a member of this forum for many years, and I simply cannot remember Bob Monkhouse contributing to any threads whatsoever.

Shame.

 

[tobydog]

I knew I was setting myself up for a fall there but ran the gauntlett anyway. As I'm sure you will agree Penners, Mr. Monkhouse was the master of improvisation. One of his best acts was asking the audience to shout out all number of different topics for him to incorporate into a story. He would use them all and go off on all sorts of tangents but the story always came back to the original topic. Several PPUK threads remind me of him :lol:

 

[Penners]

As I'm sure you will agree Penners, Mr. Monkhouse was the master of improvisation.

At the risk of sounding argumentative, Toby, I don't entirely agree. BM was certainly brilliant at sounding as though he was improvising, but actually I don't think he ever was. He had a absolutely encyclopaedic knowledge of jokes, and could call them up from his memory to suit any occasion. So I believe that what seemed like humorous improvisation was actually an extremely clever concatenation of a string of jokes that were stored in his phenomenal memory.