Period domestic computer networking

[Penners]

Yup - lime plastering, oak beam repair, leaded window maintenance and wifi network setup.

This forum boasts all of the traditional skills.

 

[88v8]

This forum boasts all of the traditional skills.

How are we at dowsing... I need to find our (clay) drains so we can avoid whacking a telegraph pole through them...
If I flush an iPad down the drain is there an app to trace it?

Ivor

 

[Zebra]

I believe the traditional method of finding drains is to whack a telegraph pole through them.

 

[Feltwell]

I managed to find a 1" diameter plastic water pipe in a huge field with a tent peg last year. In fact, I did it twice, I'm so good. The pegs sealed the holes in the pipe perfectly until the end of the holiday when I pulled them out and discovered what had happened.

With odds like that, you would have thought that winning even a modest prize on the lottery would be a given by now. :roll:

 

[Feltwell]

I believe the traditional method of finding drains is to whack a telegraph pole through them.

:lol:

 

[Me!]

If I flush an iPad down the drain is there an app to trace it?
Ivor

Yup, this one should do you just fine - https://www.glympse.com/what_is_glympse

Have you tried dowsing yourself? I was very doubtful but did try it many years ago to find a buried water main, and it did work. The trouble was that I could also find buried electrical cables, bits of lodestone or other strange rock as well as water pipes and I never knew which was which without digging.
I was never able to get the 'period' hazel twig version to work, but bent wire coat hangers were no problem.

Hmmm, the last time I tried it was about 30 years ago, ... I wonder if I can still do it, ...

 

[Penners]

Have you tried dowsing yourself? I was very doubtful but did try it many years ago to find a buried water main, and it did work.

Me too. I was/am the world's greatest sceptic about any such "supernatural" stuff, but I've tried dowsing myself with startling success. Using two bits of bent wire pivoting in biro tubes, I found an underground water pipe that crosses a large area of ground.

Mrs P says it's because my brain is 99% water anyway.

 

[LadyArowana]

How are we at dowsing... I need to find our (clay) drains so we can avoid whacking a telegraph pole through them...
If I flush an iPad down the drain is there an app to trace it?

Ivor

I don't know how it is with the fruit flavored devices, but can unfortunately confirm that if you drop a Samsung smart phone into the toilet, don't notice, flush and then return a few mins later when you discover it has gone missing it will be an ex phone. Sigh, no holiday snaps of the Australian pelican I was feeding moments before.

 

[88v8]

I imagine feeding the phone to the pelican would have had much the same effect.

Ivor

 

[Flyfisher]

In such circumstances, SIM and memory cards are quite likely to survive such accidents if quickly removed and allowed to thoroughly dry out. In the case of sea water immersion (which is usually instant death to most electronic devices), rinse them in fresh water first. As soon as they have dried out, plug them into a suitable device and copy the data. This should be done as soon as possible before corrosion damage sets in.

In cases where the data is of great importance, there are specialist companies that can remove the actual memory chips and recover the data - at a cost of course.

 

[LadyArowana]

I imagine feeding the phone to the pelican would have had much the same effect.

Ivor

Hmmmmm, probably much much worse, dead phone and very angry pelican, with the size of them I would not want to mess with a grumpy one. Possibly worse than a grumpy husband......

 

[LadyArowana]

In such circumstances, SIM and memory cards are quite likely to survive such accidents if quickly removed and allowed to thoroughly dry out. In the case of sea water immersion (which is usually instant death to most electronic devices), rinse them in fresh water first. As soon as they have dried out, plug them into a suitable device and copy the data. This should be done as soon as possible before corrosion damage sets in.

In cases where the data is of great importance, there are specialist companies that can remove the actual memory chips and recover the data - at a cost of course.

I took out the battery and the air is very dry where we are, so have let the thing sit around hopefully drying out. His Lordship thinks it may yet survive, I harbor no such thoughts and whilst I will try it again once back home will be going to get a new one ASAP. I am not welded to the thing like some folks, so it's a nuisance but not a disaster.

 

[Flyfisher]

. . . so it's a nuisance but not a disaster.

I think that's a healthy attitude towards such thing. I've always regarded cameras, camcorders and the like as things that capture memories rather than precious things in themselves.

Even if the phone is dead, give the SIM card a try when you get a new one and you might be able to recover some data.

 

[a twig]

Top tip for drying out electronics - take them apart and stick all the bits in a big bag of rice somewhere dry and warm for 24h. Saved many a device that way!

 

[Zebra]

Oh dear! I tried to set up one of those photobucket accounts, but I mistyped, and have set up a photonbucket. I daren't move it, for fear of spilling sub-atomic particles everywhere.

 

[Penners]

In such circumstances, SIM and memory cards are quite likely to survive such accidents if quickly removed and allowed to thoroughly dry out.

Sadly, devices with built-in solid-state storage may no be so fortunate - as the Penners can attest when Mrs P dropped her Google Nexus tablet in the bath.

RIP Nexus.

 

[Feltwell]

Could have been worse - she might have had it plugged in and charging. RIP Mrs Penners then. Difficult to persuade the life insurance company how genuine it would have been as well :wink: .

 

[LadyArowana]

Could have been worse - she might have had it plugged in and charging. RIP Mrs Penners then. Difficult to persuade the life insurance company how genuine it would have been as well :wink: .

But Mr P would never let her have anything as dangerous as an extension lead run into the bathroom now would he? and in the nanny state that is the UK people are not allowed a socket in the bathroom! Interesting that in Australia they are made of sterner and more Darwin friendly stuff. Sockets in the bathrooms, no smoke detectors or vulgar green "emergency exit" signs in the boutique B and B's and yet somehow they manage to survive! The high viz shirt and jacket has become somewhat of a thing though, every other guy sems to be wearing one, I have yet to persuade his Lordship though, he is still looking like an Englishman on holiday :lol:

 

[LadyArowana]

An update on the saga of the Pelican the Phone and the Toilet!

The handset has done the Lazarus thing. Not of course before I had bought a new one, that would have been too much of a miracle, but it appears to have returned to full functionality :shock: It has been almost 2 weeks, and I tried it before getting the new piece but display was still dead, although it would ring if dialed. I took it to Samsung but they just performed last rites, so I had stopped even hoping it would come back. In fact only realised because I decided to try a cable hook up to the laptop to see if I could extract pix that way, I was amazed when it sprang to life. The pelicans seem unharmed.

 

[Flyfisher]

That's good news, especially for the pelicans.

If you've not already done so then now would be a good time to copy all data from the phone because the water may cause internal corrosion that could shorten its life. Hopefully not, but when it comes to data you can't have too many copies.