Paint colours

[paulb33]

So, I tried a few sample pots of Beeck paint today. Probably all too yellow. I may go more brown. What do other folks think?
Thanks in advance.
Paul

 

[Zebra]

What did we decide over on your other thread? A goldy beige sort of thing? Not blue, if I remember!
I think the second one, of those.

 

[paulb33]

Yes: gold-beige. Me and the joiners had decided on the 2nd one too. That's what you see under the soffit in the 2nd photo. Trouble is, it looks v yellow from a distance!
Paul

 

[Zebra]

Yes, and may well look even more yellow once you get a larger area done. You know like when you're decorating a room and a colour which looks great in the pot looks rather overwhelming once you do a whole room with it.
Hmmmm.
What would a more brown colour look like? Mind you, you don't get many brown painted houses, maybe that's for a reason.
It might be useful if you could see a house of a colour which you think looks right.

 

[Zebra]

Why can't you just leave the render unpainted again?

 

[malcolm]

I'd go for 3rd from the left personally. Though it is difficult to tell from such small samples. Worth painting a larger area.

 

[plasticpigeon]

For me they are all too light and too yellow. I would go darker and more grey. The render may be a mess with bits of old paint and all that, but from a distance the effect is very pleasing. I would try and get closer to that colour.

 

[paulb33]

Yeah: this may convince me that unpainted is best...

We're repairing a lot of render, now including high visibility areas, which will inevitably look different to the existing. This test was to see how sympathetic a BEECK paint coat could be. After all, the original roughcast was 'harled' as a wet top coat. So, the buff coloured cement vehicle would have covered the stones - giving it a paint-like finish.

But, I'm disappointed at how the paint lacks subtlety. How much it screams 'PAINTED'.

I've ordered some browns and may try dispersing some golden sand in the paint too.

Although, it'll be a multicoloured house at this rate.

 

[88v8]

Bit orangey on my monitor.

I'd hate to paint the house and then decide I didn't like it :?

Ivor

 

[jocelyn plummer]

Don't forget that the colour will change as it weathers down!

 

[paulb33]

I'd hate to paint the house and then decide I didn't like it :?

Ivor

Agreed. i didn't imagine facing this problem. After all, the house was previously brilliant gloss white..... :roll:

 

[paulb33]

Don't forget that the colour will change as it weathers down!

Apparently, Beeck Renosil is extraordinarily long lasting. In fact, starting to wonder how I remove the paint samples. They remind me somewhat of an old Police album cover....

 

[88v8]

You could perhaps get some art students to paint murals...

Ivor

 

[paulb33]

You could perhaps get some art students to paint murals...

Ivor

A rag-rolled 'weathered pebble dash' effect....?

 

[JoceAndChris]

When choosing colours it isn't very helpful to think of the colour in itself, you have to think of the relationship between colours and what colours are complementary - which you can find out from looking at the colour wheel - the facing opposite looks nice. Red and grey, yes, red and yellow, no. So I agree with plastic!

 

[paulb33]

When choosing colours it isn't very helpful to think of the colour in itself, you have to think of the relationship between colours and what colours are complementary - which you can find out from looking at the colour wheel - the facing opposite looks nice. Red and grey, yes, red and yellow, no. So I agree with plastic!

Great point. Albeit, the bricks are orange in the flesh. We also have to work with the dark brown fascias. Does that change your recommendation?

 

[plasticpigeon]

Another thing that I believe quite strongly is that natural materials look really good because they have texture. So a large expanse of brick or stone wall often looks pleasing because of the natural variation in colour of the materials. A large expanse of plastic or painted metal sheet looks much worse to me. This preamble is leading to the suggestion that painting your render in a flat colour might not have the desired effect. It might be worth looking at using a couple of subtly different colours together, or maybe a (probably darker) wash over the top of a flat colour to add texture which might work well on roughcast.

 

[JoceAndChris]

I don't usually say this but cream would look very nice with the orange brick and brown fascias, something like a Matchstick by FnB. Not keen on bright white up against brickwork, got "Pointing", which is a very light white, up against my brickwork downstairs and a big fat no to that. I'm going to try Dimpse next time.

Terracottas and reds should always be put with darker creams in my opinion, whites are too stark. Scroll down the page to see the creams FnB suggest for this dark terracotta.
http://www.farrow-ball.com/red-earth/colours/farrow-ball/fcp-product/100064

Agree with plastic about flat colours as well, limewash is much nicer as it goes all mottled and intreresting.

 

[paulb33]

Another thing that I believe quite strongly is that natural materials look really good because they have texture. So a large expanse of brick or stone wall often looks pleasing because of the natural variation in colour of the materials. A large expanse of plastic or painted metal sheet looks much worse to me. This preamble is leading to the suggestion that painting your render in a flat colour might not have the desired effect. It might be worth looking at using a couple of subtly different colours together, or maybe a (probably darker) wash over the top of a flat colour to add texture which might work well on roughcast.

You're spot on again, PP. It's the subtle variation that makes the current stripped finish so appealing. It's also this that makes Ivor's golden pebbledash (cf wet roughest) so nice.

I'm minded to leave the roadside elevation as it is. The colour works and the shades of old paint are pleasing too.

The garden side is the challenge. We're now rerendering 50% of the elevation. Your colour wash may be the way to go. Perhaps using cream limewash, as Joce suggests.

Thanks again for your interest.

Paul

 

[paulb33]

I don't usually say this but cream would look very nice with the orange brick and brown fascias, something like a Matchstick by FnB. Not keen on bright white up against brickwork, got "Pointing", which is a very light white, up against my brickwork downstairs and a big fat no to that. I'm going to try Dimpse next time.

Terracottas and reds should always be put with darker creams in my opinion, whites are too stark. Scroll down the page to see the creams FnB suggest for this dark terracotta.
http://www.farrow-ball.com/red-earth/colours/farrow-ball/fcp-product/100064

Agree with plastic about flat colours as well, limewash is much nicer as it goes all mottled and intreresting.

We painted the inside with FnB matchstick. A nice period 'Magnolia'.

There's a handy online colour wheel here: http://colorschemedesigner.com/
This suggests buff-grey and golden-tan with Orange/red.

Interestingly, the FnB site endorses our dark chocolate brown ('Tanners') and suggests tying it with pale tan-buff ('Blackened'). That's choosing 'Charlotte's Locks' - a FnB orange/red close to our bricks. Here:
http://us.farrow-ball.com/charlotte's-locks/colours/farrow-ball/fcp-product/100268