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Just received an e-mail from him saying he's not feeling well with the "flue". As he is installing a bathroom not replacing a boiler it took me a little while to understand what he was saying.
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I suppose it is better that he has the flue rather than a grate opening or he'd have to be in a national hearth hospital.
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I expect it's the very debilitating man-flue which is much much worse than a nasty case of sniffles that girls get. :roll:
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I wonder whether he thinks of a flu injection as shoving a pipe up a chimney.Nigel Watts said:
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Er... if we're going to patronise the male sex, Milady, we should perhaps check our spelling. Otherwise we risk dissipating the effect of the jibe. :wink:LadyArowana said:
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I don't want to stop the funnies, ( I had a dig at Rob with his man-flu only two weeks ago)I just need to raise awareness about the seriousness of flu particularly after just reading this from a news thread.
Following news that ten people have died from swine flu in the past six weeks, there is justifiable concern about a resurgence of the virus.
Last year, the government urged wide-ranging vaccination for those most at risk from the condition.
While currently the incidence of swine flu is limited, if you happen to be in the at risk group, you should not underestimate the threat it poses to your health.
Influenza can increase your risk of a serious illness, such as pneumonia, or can make a pre-existing existing medical condition - such as asthma - worse.
Speaking about the recent deaths caused by the virus, Professor David Salisbury, Director of Immunisation at the Department of Health, said: "These figures demonstrate that the effects of flu are not to be underestimated. It is not the same as getting a cold and can seriously affect your health."
You should be vaccinated if you are:
Pregnant, and were not vaccinated for swine flu last year
Aged 65 years or over
Live in a residential or nursing home
Are the main carer for an older or disabled person
Or you have:
A heart problem
A chest complaint or breathing difficulties, including bronchitis and emphysema
Kidney disease
Lowered immunity due to disease or treatment (such as steroid medication or cancer treatment)
Liver disease
Had a stroke or a transient ischaemic attack
Have diabetes
Have a neurological condition such as multiple sclerosis or cerebral palsy
Have a problem with, or removal of, your spleen e.g. sickle cell disease
The vaccination is free and will protect you against three types of flu, including last year's new H1N1 virus strain, also known as swine flu.
The vaccine is generally well tolerated, and is effective in about 80 per cent of people, though it will also mitigate the effects of the flu in those who fall ill.
In Robs Cold thread I put a comment that Pauls dad had just been admitted to hospital with pneumonia. Unfortunatly after a week in hospital he died, when he was on ICU, Tamiflu was spoken about, we don't know if he had swine flu but please please if you know someone is suffering make sure they get the correct treatment. From being admitted to hospital with pneumonia which was believed to be non-life threatening he rapidly went down hill, had a cardiac arrest, was admitted to ICU, a CT scan showed brain damage and within 20 minutes of having his oxygen levels reduced as there was no chance of recovery he had passed away.
Sorry to put a dampner on things but this can be very serious.
Following news that ten people have died from swine flu in the past six weeks, there is justifiable concern about a resurgence of the virus.
Last year, the government urged wide-ranging vaccination for those most at risk from the condition.
While currently the incidence of swine flu is limited, if you happen to be in the at risk group, you should not underestimate the threat it poses to your health.
Influenza can increase your risk of a serious illness, such as pneumonia, or can make a pre-existing existing medical condition - such as asthma - worse.
Speaking about the recent deaths caused by the virus, Professor David Salisbury, Director of Immunisation at the Department of Health, said: "These figures demonstrate that the effects of flu are not to be underestimated. It is not the same as getting a cold and can seriously affect your health."
You should be vaccinated if you are:
Pregnant, and were not vaccinated for swine flu last year
Aged 65 years or over
Live in a residential or nursing home
Are the main carer for an older or disabled person
Or you have:
A heart problem
A chest complaint or breathing difficulties, including bronchitis and emphysema
Kidney disease
Lowered immunity due to disease or treatment (such as steroid medication or cancer treatment)
Liver disease
Had a stroke or a transient ischaemic attack
Have diabetes
Have a neurological condition such as multiple sclerosis or cerebral palsy
Have a problem with, or removal of, your spleen e.g. sickle cell disease
The vaccination is free and will protect you against three types of flu, including last year's new H1N1 virus strain, also known as swine flu.
The vaccine is generally well tolerated, and is effective in about 80 per cent of people, though it will also mitigate the effects of the flu in those who fall ill.
In Robs Cold thread I put a comment that Pauls dad had just been admitted to hospital with pneumonia. Unfortunatly after a week in hospital he died, when he was on ICU, Tamiflu was spoken about, we don't know if he had swine flu but please please if you know someone is suffering make sure they get the correct treatment. From being admitted to hospital with pneumonia which was believed to be non-life threatening he rapidly went down hill, had a cardiac arrest, was admitted to ICU, a CT scan showed brain damage and within 20 minutes of having his oxygen levels reduced as there was no chance of recovery he had passed away.
Sorry to put a dampner on things but this can be very serious.
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Condolences to Jill and to Paul - a terrible time to lose a loved one. Group hug from PPUKers.
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I thought that was only a disease of retired pilots?
Flew. :roll:
In terms of swin/bird flu, don't bank on Tamiflu - to be effective it needs to be taken within the first day or so of the onset of symptoms and then it will only reduce the duration of symptoms by a day or so. This can perhaps make a difference in the poorliest of patients, but for most of us it certainly isn't a wonderdrug.
When the epidemic comes, we need to hope the vaccine is produced quickly, and in the meantime reduce contact with others and practice good hygiene. Possibly more impoartant than the flu jab is ensuring you have had a pneumovax (immunisation against strep pneumonia). As sadly appears to be the case with Jill's father in law, it is the secondary infections like pneumonia that can be more dangerous than than the flu.
Flew. :roll:
In terms of swin/bird flu, don't bank on Tamiflu - to be effective it needs to be taken within the first day or so of the onset of symptoms and then it will only reduce the duration of symptoms by a day or so. This can perhaps make a difference in the poorliest of patients, but for most of us it certainly isn't a wonderdrug.
When the epidemic comes, we need to hope the vaccine is produced quickly, and in the meantime reduce contact with others and practice good hygiene. Possibly more impoartant than the flu jab is ensuring you have had a pneumovax (immunisation against strep pneumonia). As sadly appears to be the case with Jill's father in law, it is the secondary infections like pneumonia that can be more dangerous than than the flu.
Swine flu is indeed a nasty one but more people die of regular flu's every year. The whole swine flu thing i think was very fishy. Why cause such a world panic? Was it media driven which as we all know anything driven by the media is completely blown out of proportion, for instance the youths in Silwan who are being 'detained' and 'interrogated' , questioned in other words.
Or was it driven by pharmaceutical company's selling their medication for it?
This is worth reading.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html
We were all in such a panic that we would have taken anything should it have been offered. I think the media should be regulated more to stop them inflicting panic on the nation in order to sell news. From terrorists to the weather , im surprised people actually leave their houses after reading the morning papers or watching morning time or what ever its called.
Or was it driven by pharmaceutical company's selling their medication for it?
This is worth reading.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html
We were all in such a panic that we would have taken anything should it have been offered. I think the media should be regulated more to stop them inflicting panic on the nation in order to sell news. From terrorists to the weather , im surprised people actually leave their houses after reading the morning papers or watching morning time or what ever its called.
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Very sad news Jill, my condolences. Fortunately, my friend who was admitted to hospital recently with pneumonia is now home and recovering, although he's still not completely fit and the doctors say it could be a couple of months before he's back to normal. It can be a scarily thin line between good and bad health.
That particular problem could be solved, almost overnight, if everyone just stopped buying the daily papers. I recommend subscriptions to New Scientist and Private Eye as alternatives.robgil said:
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Flyfisher said:
Oh yes -those and The Daily Mash www.thedailymash.co.uk
And (Thanks to Gareth for this one) NewsBiscuit www.newsbiscuit.com
Both of them are essential daily reading. :lol:
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Condolences Jill, very sad news about your father in law. I was in one of the SARS hotspots when that happened and there is still a level of concern about the mutation of bird flu/ H1N1 etc here. I may be wrong, but think I read that the breaching of the species barrier with the transmission of some of these nasties seems to be more likely in Asia where pigs chickens and people are in close proximity. Singapore is very vigilant, other places much less so I am sure, and now with air travel things can spread very quickly.
( joke ) obviously so miniscule as to be missed completely :lol: Next time I shall call it mann-phlughenza which has a much more hairy arsed look to it, almost as serious as a bad back, not that one mentions such chronic conditions of course.
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( joke ) obviously so miniscule as to be missed completely :lol: Next time I shall call it mann-phlughenza which has a much more hairy arsed look to it, almost as serious as a bad back, not that one mentions such chronic conditions of course.
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Jill you are quite right and I am very sorry to hear of your experiences. My plumber fortunately does not seem to be in a high risk group.
Even having only a very mild form of asthma I usually get some unpleasant after effects. Since my last bout in September 2009 I have needed a prescription spray to reduce nasal congestion. After another bout seven or eight ago I got an ear infection which caused tinnitus which my ENT surgeon thought might be permanent (it wasn't, thank God).
At the Medical Research Council, where I worked until a couple of months ago, we had frequent discussions about how to respond to a flu pandemic. The problem is not that flu can't be vaccinated against but rather that the rate of spread of a new virulent strain could be faster than the development and roll out of the vaccine. Getting the jab is the best advice. In 2009 I got one for swine flu, but have not had a seasonal flu jab this year, which I should.
Even having only a very mild form of asthma I usually get some unpleasant after effects. Since my last bout in September 2009 I have needed a prescription spray to reduce nasal congestion. After another bout seven or eight ago I got an ear infection which caused tinnitus which my ENT surgeon thought might be permanent (it wasn't, thank God).
At the Medical Research Council, where I worked until a couple of months ago, we had frequent discussions about how to respond to a flu pandemic. The problem is not that flu can't be vaccinated against but rather that the rate of spread of a new virulent strain could be faster than the development and roll out of the vaccine. Getting the jab is the best advice. In 2009 I got one for swine flu, but have not had a seasonal flu jab this year, which I should.
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Don't be ridiculous, Yer Ladyship. Flu is, in almost all cases, a transient condition. Those with bad backs (naming no names) suffer courageously throughout their lives. And they do so without ever talking about their agonised condition.LadyArowana said:
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Thankyou for the kind words.
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I have just broken the habit of a lifetime by following my own advice and got a flu jab yesterday.