Lincrusta 2014 New Design Passeri RD 1971

[paulb33]

I'd like to put my two pence in here.
Andy was extremely helpful to us when we were trying to figure out exactly what it was we had (forgive the pun) plastered all over our house when we were purchasing it; we had previously never heard of Lincrusta and it was thanks to this forum and google hitting some of Andy's posts here that we were able to contact him and send photos for identification.
I in particular was very disheartened when I found that the ornate "plaster" as described by the estate agents was very thin and hollow, and thought it was a modern facsimili.
Andy was able to tell us that the Lincrusta and Cameoid work we have is likely to be original and should be treasured for what it is - a wonderful period feature. He went out of his way to find historical records of the designs with no financial incentive to do so whatsoever.
A lot of the lincrusta tooling had to be melted down to make war equipment, so a new design based on older patterns is noteworthy. Based on our contact with Andy to date he is enthusiastic about his product, past and present and as he's posted has done his best to remove direct details. Equating the post to spam is pretty harsh in my opinion.
Any excuse for a picture:

And, WHAT a picture. :shock:

 

[kreyszig]

thanks! I should pop a few more up. unless they'll be considered advertising :lol:

 

[paulb33]

thanks! I should pop a few more up. unless they'll be considered advertising :lol:

They're really lovely. Great to see more.

What is going on with the plaster above the window? The design is truncated. Is that intentional?

 

[kreyszig]

The lincrusta is in panels, so the bit above the window has been cut to fit the arch, if we're looking at the same thing. Same with the truncation of the pattern on the ceiling (cameoid I think) itself.
The egg and dart above the frieze and the flowery border on the ceiling are fibrous plaster, that seems to come in sections too but it's not so obvious (except where it's cracked at the joints!)

 

[Moo]

I don't understand why it's ok for Castiron to post here, but not Mr Lincrusta. Could someone please explain?

 

[Zebra]

Well, my own opinion on this is that castiron's post today was replying to a thread specifically asking about his area of expertise, whereas Mr Lincrusta started a thread purely to promote a product.

 

[Gareth Hughes]

Well, my own opinion on this is that castiron's post today was replying to a thread specifically asking about his area of expertise, whereas Mr Lincrusta started a thread purely to promote a product.

Precisely. Which is how all the posts started by Mr Anaglypta have been.

 

[Moo]

Andy was extremely helpful to us ... we had previously never heard of Lincrusta and it was thanks to this forum and google hitting some of Andy's posts here that we were able to contact him and send photos for identification.
... Andy was able to tell us that the Lincrusta and Cameoid work we have is likely to be original and should be treasured for what it is - a wonderful period feature. He went out of his way to find historical records of the designs with no financial incentive to do so whatsoever.

Milady and Gareth - you're quite right, of course, but I think the motives are the same. Both seem passionate about their products, are very generous in sharing information, and are therefore a useful resource on the forum. A bit like Toby Newell.
Would it be possible to persuade them to pay for an advertisement, thus legitimising their posts?

 

[Zebra]

The motives may be the same, but I think it's simply a question of approach. There's nothing wrong with being passionate, and no problem with any of the members you mention contributing, and even offering their services, should their services be required. And certainly nobody's saying that they don't have a wealth of knowledge. But there are ways of going about it which are subtle, and there are ways of going about it which are blatantly, overtly, commercial.
I'm an electrician. Were I to decide that I wished to start a business specialising in period properties, I could respond to threads discussing the wiring of old houses, offer advice, and let everyone know, en passant, that I am a bit of an expert. I could send a pm to anyone who might want to know more. And there are enough people on here who visit every day and read every thread, that should I miss one, someone would pipe up and say "try zebra, this is her sort of area...."
Or I could, every few months, start a thread entitled New Specialist Period Property Electrician!
I might be within my rights to do the latter, but it's just annoying. The first method would probably, in fact, be more effective.
There are other members who cross the line a little, and somebody always points it out. There was a lady a while ago who started a thread asking what everybody's definition of period property was, then it turned out she was running a website advertising properties for sale. We all, if I remember, got a bit huffy and left the room.
One of castiron's threads was a little close to going too far - the one which showed a picture of the product and asked whether we think it's better with or without the brand name on. I raised an eyebrow at the time, I remember, although I said nothing.
Of course, some of us mind, some of us don't. It's interesting to see where people draw the line. It seems many of us will tolerate all sorts of silly nonsense on here but don't like being sold to. So I hope all our resident experts will hang around, offering their expertise, and picking up business too, but just don't treat the forum like a target market!

 

[Mr Lincrusta]

Hi All,

I am not advertising a New PRODUCT this product has been around since 1877, and truly British, oh sorry advertising that we are British!

I was showing the members a New copy / Old design dating back to c1898, no contact details, no Phone number just giving out information, Yes it is correct that I am very passionate, I am a Master Painter and Decorator as well as a Lincrusta restorer and conservator (In the first Instance) Lincrusta has a Marketing person, My Title is World Wide Technical Manager(Lincrusta).

When you work for Lincrusta, we are always treading a fine line with giving out Information against advertising, my role is giving out information and helping persons world wide to Restore, Conserve, copy, repair, replace Historical Lincrusta's . the new / old design for me was just that Giving out information so people know the design is their if they need it.

Regards Mr Lincrusta (OH AND BY THE WAY I AM NOT Mr Anaglypta that is a totally different company as we sold that 2 years ago)

 

[paulb33]

It was lovely to see the old design, Mr Lincrusta. Keep up the good work (and making some money to keep the old designs alive...).

 

[Belinda]

Before Mr Lincrusta posted here I had already considered using the Lincrusta Georgian panel design in the entrance. WHEN we finally buy our house.... And I can remember my grandparents having it (or something very similar) in their tiny traditional two up two down terraced house in Coventry. Certainly beats tongue and groove panelling (apologies to everyone who loves T&G!)

 

[Gareth Hughes]

Hi All,

I am not advertising

Sorry, but you are. And that is the fundamental problem.

 

[Penners]

I am not advertising

Of course you are. Just saying that it's not an advertisement doesn't change anything.

 

[LadyArowana]

If nobody posts any replies to Mr L then his thread will very quickly sink away to the depths of the forum and whether it is "advertising" or not will be a moot point. I have actually considered going in to all the other topics and commenting " " just to send it to the bottom of the list......

 

[skier-hughes]

Having reported it to Simon, and he's not done anything, why is everyone still bothered?
Surely if Simon thought it was overt he would have removed it and had a word with Mr L?

 

[Mr Lincrusta]

It is very funny that people can Only post the first few words of my post see below full post, which actually does not put the conversation into context!!!! (see full comment below)

I find it very sad that people can waste energy on all this unimportant chat when all we ALL are doing is keeping our period properties alive and in good condition, by talking, and informing so people can make an informed choice and decision that could affect the period property that they live in , or even spoil, damage the property for ever!

For years Lincrusta was in the wilderness, just bumbling along, trading from its name only, since coming on board all we want to do is inform, every year I get hundreds of calls and e mails saying that my parents / grand parents etc had Lincrusta, but we thought it had disappeared! where can we find it? How do we get it? can I restore an Historical Lincrusta, so by talking, it allows people with period properties to access the correct information, People, and resources to help, with Historical information, restoration, Conservation and replacement (as a last resort) and not using the many cowboys out in the world that want to make a quick buck, and end up costing your members unnecessary costs and heart ache!

As with all forums, we all have a choice whether to read posts or not, If Lincrusta is not in your property then the post should not be of interest, if it is then brilliant. If a member registered on your site and found my posts useful and allowed the person to conserve document etc, your site would be the best thing since sliced bread, thus grows Members and notoriety, which is great for everyone.

Very sorry but on my soap box this morning.



Hi All,

I am not advertising a New PRODUCT this product has been around since 1877, and truly British, oh sorry advertising that we are British!

I was showing the members a New copy / Old design dating back to c1898, no contact details, no Phone number just giving out information, Yes it is correct that I am very passionate, I am a Master Painter and Decorator as well as a Lincrusta restorer and conservator (In the first Instance) Lincrusta has a Marketing person, My Title is World Wide Technical Manager(Lincrusta).

When you work for Lincrusta, we are always treading a fine line with giving out Information against advertising, my role is giving out information and helping persons world wide to Restore, Conserve, copy, repair, replace Historical Lincrusta's . the new / old design for me was just that Giving out information so people know the design is their if they need it.

Regards Mr Lincrusta (OH AND BY THE WAY I AM NOT Mr Anaglypta that is a totally different company as we sold that 2 years ago)

 

[Moo]

Your presence on the forum would have come in handy for me when we bought our Norwich house. There was a patch of Lincrusta that I'd have loved to restore, but at the time I was unable to find any source of information. So I'm afraid it had to go, which was a pity.

 

[Mr Lincrusta]

Well Kreyzig

Found you ceiling design in a book dated 1909 and was exhibited at the great Paris exhibition 1909, where numerous designs won Gold medals.

design Number 420
repeat 27 1/2 x 27 1/2
it was classed as an Elizabethan design

the designer of the design was a chap called Owen W Davies.

I will try and find you Frieze

sorry for the delay in posting, I have only just took delivery of this book, and I spotted your design how spooky.

 

[kreyszig]

I'm surprised you remembered it, thanks very much for the update! Any more on the frieze would be great too, of course. Thanks again!