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Kid proof paint
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biffvernon
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pete said:I'd noticed these natural paints the other day. May be worth checking out (?)
Yes, they are made by another German company, Biofa, and sold in Britain by The Green Building Store and also by
Villa Natura who distribute it through a number of stockists round the country. There's a list on their website. TheBiofa website has a lot of good information about this excellent paint range.
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NT said:Not cheap
The Allback linseed oil paint sold for exterior woodwork by Holkham Paints at about £25 per litre looks expensive compared to most of the gloss paints sold in the DIY sheds but because a very thin coat is used it goes about twice as far. More importantly, linseed oil painted on bare wood will not peel off. Ever. The surface gradually erodes and the manufacturers recommend a 14 year maintenance cycle, with a coat of linseed oil being applied after 7 years and a coat of paint after a further 7 years. Since labour is the larger part of a painting cost, real linseed oil paint turns out to be very cheap. Add in the vastly greater vapour permeability that allows the wood to stay dry and not rot and these paints become a real no-brainer.A Dutch painter said:The most expensive paint is cheap paint
biffvernon said:NT said:Not cheap
The Allback linseed oil paint sold for exterior woodwork by Holkham Paints at about £25 per litre looks expensive compared to most of the gloss paints sold in the DIY sheds but because a very thin coat is used it goes about twice as far. More importantly, linseed oil painted on bare wood will not peel off. Ever. The surface gradually erodes and the manufacturers recommend a 14 year maintenance cycle, with a coat of linseed oil being applied after 7 years and a coat of paint after a further 7 years. Since labour is the larger part of a painting cost, real linseed oil paint turns out to be very cheap. Add in the vastly greater vapour permeability that allows the wood to stay dry and not rot and these paints become a real no-brainer.A Dutch painter said:The most expensive paint is cheap paint
I wish. I just made the decision to repaint in alkyd where access is a problem, because it can be done in one access event, primer under and top in one day. Linseed otoh requires several coats spaced out over days, and much as I'd prefer to do that, it isnt always practical.
Re aglaia resin paint, you appear tob e implying it outlasts standard emulsion by some way, is this true? And if so, who says so, other than the manufacturer?
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Yes, rush,rush,rush. That's modern life. But it costs a lot of time if you have to repaint in a few years.NT said:I wish. I just made the decision to repaint in alkyd where access is a problem, because it can be done in one access event, primer under and top in one day. Linseed otoh requires several coats spaced out over days, and much as I'd prefer to do that, it isnt always practical.
I don't think I said that. The trouble with 'standard emulsion' is that it is based on the unsustainable and polluting petrochemicals industry to produce a product that is hazardous in use and disposal and leaves a relatively un-breathable coating on your wall. I did say that Allback Linseed oil paint outlasts modern alkyd resin based paints by a very long way. This is largely because it soaks into the wood forming a very tight bond, the linseed oil having an affinity with the wood's chemistry, whereas alkyd paints form a film on the surface of the wood that is liable to become detached especially when the wood gets wet.NT said:Re aglaia resin paint, you appear tob e implying it outlasts standard emulsion by some way, is this true? And if so, who says so, other than the manufacturer? NT
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Another German company, Livos produces a range of very eco-friendly paints based on natural and traditional materials. They are sold in Britain by Ecomerchant.
biffvernon said:Yes, rush,rush,rush. That's modern life. But it costs a lot of time if you have to repaint in a few years.NT said:I wish. I just made the decision to repaint in alkyd where access is a problem, because it can be done in one access event, primer under and top in one day. Linseed otoh requires several coats spaced out over days, and much as I'd prefer to do that, it isnt always practical.
nothing to do with rush. I take my time for long lasting results, but it wasnt practical in this case.
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Is it just me, or do NT's tags never work for others too?
Penners said:Is it just me, or do NT's tags never work for others too?
Me too.
Is it just nested quotes?
nobody worth reading said:Me too.Penners said:Is it just me, or do NT's tags never work for others too?
hmm, think thats OK?
NT said:biffvernon said:Yes, rush,rush,rush. That's modern life. But it costs a lot of time if you have to repaint in a few years.NT said:I wish. I just made the decision to repaint in alkyd where access is a problem, because it can be done in one access event, primer under and top in one day. Linseed otoh requires several coats spaced out over days, and much as I'd prefer to do that, it isnt always practical.
nothing to do with rush. I take my time for long lasting results, but it wasnt practical in this case.
NT
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