Deeds!

[Flyfisher]

In my view, destroying deeds to a LB should require LBC.

That's a very good point, though probably practically unenforceable unless there is already a record of the deeds still actually existing. Perhaps EH should be able to hold them as banks/solicitors used to do before Land Registry was invented (yes, another bit of wishfuil thinking!).

We have three filing cabinet draws full of deeds and other old documents relating to our house, dating back to when it stood in 255 acres of land. Unfortunately, the developer who bought the entire estate in 1959 was responsible for parcelling it up and gradually selling it off for development.

I know people have to live somewhere and I'm sure all the villagers enjoy their new homes but it somehow seems a shame that we can no longer walk the 1/3rd mile across open fields to the church. Such is 'progress' I suppose.

 

[LadyArowana]

I know people have to live somewhere and I'm sure all the villagers enjoy their new homes but it somehow seems a shame that we can no longer walk the 1/3rd mile across open fields to the church. Such is 'progress' I suppose.

It could be worse, it could have been the access route to the pub!

 

[Penners]

it somehow seems a shame that we can no longer walk the 1/3rd mile across open fields to the church.

A shame indeed. I bet they've even done away with the droit de seigneur, obliging any village wench who gets married to report to you on her wedding night.

Such charming old traditions should be preserved. :wink:

 

[Flyfisher]

It could be worse, it could have been the access route to the pub!

It's on the same route really. The church is on 'our' side of the village centre and the pub is on the other side. Handy for dropping in for a bit of divine forgiveness after a heavy night perhaps?

 

[Flyfisher]

it somehow seems a shame that we can no longer walk the 1/3rd mile across open fields to the church.

A shame indeed. I bet they've even done away with the droit de seigneur, obliging any village wench who gets married to report to you on her wedding night.

Such charming old traditions should be preserved. :wink:

:lol:
Now you mention such things, there also seems to be a distinct lack of forelock-tugging whenever I venture into the village.
Just another example of the dreadful erosion of standards these days.

 

[Penners]

Flogging - it's the only answer.

 

[AMc]

When we last moved there was a scrabble around for the deeds to the house we were selling. Our mortgage lender told us they had "dematerialised" the deeds and they had been returned to us during the 5 year occupancy. We'd never seen them and they'd used untracked post so they were either never sent or were never delivered. The sale went through on the Land Registry records but a little bit of the history of that Victorian house was lost through carelessness.

 

[Flyfisher]

I'd bet that sort of thing is happening all over the country now that the original deeds are no longer a legal necessity. It's almost inevitable that millions of them will get lost or destroyed. Such a shame.

 

[still_adrianth]

Thanks Pford75; if I'd thought, then "oldest holds sway" surely couldn't be right. But the point is...

I'd bet that sort of thing is happening all over the country now that the original deeds are no longer a legal necessity. It's almost inevitable that millions of them will get lost or destroyed. Such a shame.

...indeed! They are not a necessity during purchase, and I suspect they are disappearing. Aside from their historical worth, if Pford75 is right they *can* have legal value in boundary disputes and purchasers of old properties should know to actively prevent them going amiss.

We have some beautiful handwritten ones even from 1916. They're interesting too.

 

[Moo]

We, too, were lucky enough to be presented with a package of deeds when we bought this house.
They've continued to live in the big brown envelope and I'd love to display them in some way so that they're more accessible, but I'm a bit concerned about the effect of daylight, and there's the added problem of the fact that the writing is on both sides of the paper.
Any ideas?

 

[LadyArowana]

We, too, were lucky enough to be presented with a package of deeds when we bought this house.
They've continued to live in the big brown envelope and I'd love to display them in some way so that they're more accessible, but I'm a bit concerned about the effect of daylight, and there's the added problem of the fact that the writing is on both sides of the paper.
Any ideas?

With the museum "glass" fading should be prevented and it should be possible for a good framer to use that to effectively make it double sided with an acid free matt. If you are framing make sure they are using all acid free. I took something in to have the glass upgraded this week and when we opened it up the non acid free had literally burnt an edging into the print. Luckily it should be possible to re matt to cover most of that shadow.

 

[Moo]

I shall pay a visit this afternoon to the gallery/framers just up the road!

 

[Flyfisher]

How about making a 1:1 colour copy for display purposes? The valuable original document could then be kept safely in the dark somewhere.

I've also found that laminating photos protects them pretty well from sunlight. I have some on the walls that still look fine after about 10 years. I wouldn't dream of laminating anything unique or valuable, but it's a pretty good solution for protecting 'snaps' that can easily be reprinted from the original file (or negative).

 

[LadyArowana]

I shall pay a visit this afternoon to the gallery/framers just up the road!

I realize this place is in San Fran and therefore not exactly handy, but thought the picture might be inspirational. It will be the hanging attachments that are an issue for frame size as anything too narrow won't work.

http://www.framersworkshop.com/Examples/DoubleSidedFrame.html

 

[Penners]

the writing is on both sides of the paper.
Any ideas?

They'd never have passed 'O' level English, then!

You could photograph the reverse side (or both sides). I'd be inclined to put the document under a sheet of glass to get is as flat as possible, light it so that there's no reflection into the camera lens, and use a focal length of about 75mm or so (depending on the document size). If you get too close you may get a bit of distortion (although you can always correct that in Photoshop).

If you need large format photographic prints, let me know. I know an excellent online supplier.

 

[Moo]

I realize this place is in San Fran and therefore not exactly handy,[/url]

Aw, shucks. If only I'd posted this back in October I could have popped in with the deeds and had it all sorted.
And while we're on the subject of San Francisco (and referring to a recent thread), we experienced an earthquake while we were there. It was a Thursday, and we were in the Curran Theatre watching Mr Spacey being Richard III when, at a very dramatic moment in Clarence's pre-drowning speech, the whole building shook. Our seats jerked violently, the chandelier rattled, and the bare bulb in Clarence's prison cell swung wildly from side to side. Clarence was magnificent, though - he just held his dramatic pause a bit longer.

Penners - please let me know how to get in touch with the online supplier.

 

[Penners]

Here they are:
http://www.simlab.co.uk/

Click on "Standard print prices" and you'll see that their prices are remarkably low. I ordered a batch of 12" x 10" from them, and was extremely impressed with the quality and speed of delivery. Note that the minimum order is £5 and the P&P is £5, but the quality of P&P was excellent.

Upload your images at 300 dpi and actual size. If they're photos of hand script, I'd recommend boosting the contrast and sharpening a little before you upload.

Let me know if I can help.

 

[AMc]

RE double sided frames...
I bought a couple from habitat - two panes of glass held in place by a small frame rebated into the front.
I'm fairly sure they were called bacall but the website isn't that clear and now the Norwich store is closed so harder to check than before.
http://www.habitat.co.uk/bacall-wall-frame/photoframes//fcp-product/28890