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Oh gawd not again.
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Well, in the case of Mr Forster's water tower you might have given more even-handed coverage of the need to balance visually intrusive green technology with the need to conserve the character of our relatively small number of listed buildings, perhaps by quoting the government inspector who refused consent for the solar panels he fitted without permission, rather than portraying it as "little man trying to save the planet is told he can't by mad faceless officials"Build a New Life said:
For example
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Then, as we discussed the last time you posted your ad (see forum rules...) there was the small matter of the spoiling of a bastle in Northumberland.
Inspirational?
Not on your nelly.
Gareth - mad and faceless? No.... didn't the inspector at the inquiry agree the panels were wrong, fitted unlawfully, and had to be removed?
Inspirational?
Not on your nelly.
Gareth - mad and faceless? No.... didn't the inspector at the inquiry agree the panels were wrong, fitted unlawfully, and had to be removed?
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Odd - how come previous posts have been ignored, when we responded, and you continue to post your ads?
Actually, as the Planning Officer (actually the CO in the local authority concerned has posted above ...) will I am sure explain to you if you wish, enforcement action was taken regarding the illegally installed panels, and only after a whole heap of time and presumably public cash was wasted on an inquiry did he remove them, that or face further legal penalties.
We on this forum are in the main interested in proper conservation and not quick renovation jobs. Sadly, some of the British Public you feature seem not to be.
With regard to the water tower - in my opinion, it has ruined an industrial structure, and is lousy conservation and a thoroughly poor example of a conversion.
Same with the bastle - which was once one of the most important and unpsoilt examples, as the listing description states.
And so the appetite for spoiling historic buildings is whetted by 'entertainment' programmes like yours. Still, no doubt it all makes cash for the TV people.
Actually, as the Planning Officer (actually the CO in the local authority concerned has posted above ...) will I am sure explain to you if you wish, enforcement action was taken regarding the illegally installed panels, and only after a whole heap of time and presumably public cash was wasted on an inquiry did he remove them, that or face further legal penalties.
We on this forum are in the main interested in proper conservation and not quick renovation jobs. Sadly, some of the British Public you feature seem not to be.
With regard to the water tower - in my opinion, it has ruined an industrial structure, and is lousy conservation and a thoroughly poor example of a conversion.
Same with the bastle - which was once one of the most important and unpsoilt examples, as the listing description states.
And so the appetite for spoiling historic buildings is whetted by 'entertainment' programmes like yours. Still, no doubt it all makes cash for the TV people.
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True, but they are a subjective representation, not an objective cross-section of either the British public, or the small sub-section of them that chose to take an active intrest in period properties. You document the extremists, the odd-balls, the 'characters' who make good television, not the guys who slowly make their projects work over time whilst studiously researching and taking advice.
It gets a bit dull, watching the same 'both feet first' gung ho approach re-enacted on every such show. Especially on a forum where doing something right is preferred over doing something spectacular or brash. Working for a company that tries to avoid drama, extreme solutions and panic in what it does, the reality of a more moderate approach is more favorable for the building most of the time. It's the buildings that matter, there's not many of them and they should be treated with a little respect; regardless of the decisions of the current owners.
Matt.
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Indeed, we are sixteen years into our 'labour of love'.
Not good TV though, painstaking repair in appropriate materials and methods.
(Interesting new talking rot articles on the website Matt...)
http://www.ridoutassociates.co.uk/articles.htm
Not good TV though, painstaking repair in appropriate materials and methods.
(Interesting new talking rot articles on the website Matt...)
http://www.ridoutassociates.co.uk/articles.htm
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Hi peep…
This is my first message.. lol.. and I’ve chosen a heated one!
I’ve worked in some amassing buildings, such as IoD, Café Royal and Midland Ground [Saint Pancras] before it was renovated… I love derelict and historical buildings, but even I can see the programme makers can’t spend all there time on sites like this, with filming, and finding people up en down the country. But it seems the planning office lets it’s Planning Officers to waist many hours on here.
I’ve not seen this show, but whatever this Foster bloke did, he was clearly trying to do he’s part to save the planet.. and once the law stepped in, it was sorted. I am worried tho, as you seem very bitter over it all Nemesis, and this must affect your job, which means the public will suffer from you.
Matt, I totally agree, our buildings need to be cared for, and should not be exploited for the sake of a 30min show! But I would have thought by posting on a site like this, the people they get on the show would have put the research in. If people like us don’t help out and get involved, it will just be full of wonnabe Jade Goody’s, ballzing up listed building for entertainment!
This is my first message.. lol.. and I’ve chosen a heated one!
I’ve worked in some amassing buildings, such as IoD, Café Royal and Midland Ground [Saint Pancras] before it was renovated… I love derelict and historical buildings, but even I can see the programme makers can’t spend all there time on sites like this, with filming, and finding people up en down the country. But it seems the planning office lets it’s Planning Officers to waist many hours on here.
I’ve not seen this show, but whatever this Foster bloke did, he was clearly trying to do he’s part to save the planet.. and once the law stepped in, it was sorted. I am worried tho, as you seem very bitter over it all Nemesis, and this must affect your job, which means the public will suffer from you.
Matt, I totally agree, our buildings need to be cared for, and should not be exploited for the sake of a 30min show! But I would have thought by posting on a site like this, the people they get on the show would have put the research in. If people like us don’t help out and get involved, it will just be full of wonnabe Jade Goody’s, ballzing up listed building for entertainment!
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Actually, you've got a great deal wrong, maybe before jumping in feet first you should get a few facts right? For a start I'm not a planning officer... and how I spend my own time is my own concern.
Never a good plan to put fingers to keyboard without knowing of what you are writing. The public may suffer.
Yes, the show is about what you said in the final two lines, in the opinion of some of us.
Never a good plan to put fingers to keyboard without knowing of what you are writing. The public may suffer.
Yes, the show is about what you said in the final two lines, in the opinion of some of us.
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Odd really, I don't feel aggressive ... simply rather saddened - but I don't care for programmes showing the worst sort of repair and insensitive treatment of historic buildings, as indeed I suspect do few who post here.
Many of us spend a great deal of our time, either professionally or voluntarily, working in a wide sense ( not simply on our own buildings) for the conservation of historic buildings, and don't feel that your sort of programme is really very helpful in furthering what we do.
Many of us spend a great deal of our time, either professionally or voluntarily, working in a wide sense ( not simply on our own buildings) for the conservation of historic buildings, and don't feel that your sort of programme is really very helpful in furthering what we do.
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However - from a previous discussion following on from a similar advert:
Gareth:
They are off but not quite as simply as Gareth put it.
Still, the window boxes and the balcony must be saving the planet...
Pic here:
http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/details/default.aspx?pid=1&id=433287
Gareth:
They are off but not quite as simply as Gareth put it.
Still, the window boxes and the balcony must be saving the planet...
Pic here:
http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/details/default.aspx?pid=1&id=433287
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And as for the punctuashun... :shock:
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It is a shame - I was more than happy to share my experiences of trying hard to care for historic buildings, as were others, but it didn't seem to be too well received...
However - basically, that's a load of bal... oney.
However - basically, that's a load of bal... oney.
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Never apologise, madam. There are very few of us left with the will to maintain a staunch defence of our beloved language.shelli said:
P. Edant.