Back Door, could be pine, can it be left stripped and sealed

[Penners]

I doubt that it's Pitch Pine. A lot of old, well-coloured pine is referred to as Pitch Pine when it's actually just old Scots Pine or (sometimes) Douglas Fir. PP tends to warp easily, due to its uneven growth, so it's probably not very suitable for doors. And it's certainly not Parana Pine - the grain's too wild and knotty.

The "red powdery stuff" in the knots might be patent knotting or just resin.

I can understand your desire not to paint it, Rob, and that being the case I - like worms - would linseed oil it. But if that's what you're going to do, I fear you've still got a lot of preparatory work on your hands to get rid of the paint residues. And if you want to conserve the graffiti you'll have to avoid sanding it.

I reckon boiled linseed will be better, as it dries more quickly. Raw can stay sticky for a long time and dust sticks to it.

By the way, you do know about the dangers of linseed-oily rags, don't you? If you leave them screwed up, they can spontaneously ignite. So it's always safer to wash them out and leave them spread flat to dry.

 

[robgil]

top tip about the rags Penners ,thankyou.
sanding it is a no no , even the rough bits. I dont mind leaving some paint residue on there as i fear too much working the paint off might damage the door and after 4 attempts with nb510 and one with nitromores i think ive already chemically altered my entire gardens eco system. :shock:
i will hopefully get a coat of oil on it tonight after ive removed the paint of the inside of the door so i will get some before , during and after pics up.

 

[worms]

As Penners says, boiled will dry quicker. But raw is cheaper! Warmed a little it will soak in better.

Boiled these days is not actually boiled but has an additive. You can get a similar effect by thinning raw linseed with white spirit, painting it on, letting it soak for a couple of hours, then rubbing off with a cloth. I've also found it to work well when thinned with diesel.

 

[robgil]

boiled and raw is the same price down the garden centre, that price being expensive.
how many coats would one normally put on a door like this? two perhaps?

 

[Flyfisher]

That's a cue for me to repeat an old gamekeeper's advice about linseed oiling a walking stick:

Once a day for a week,
Once a week for a month,
Once a month for a year,
Once a year for life.

Mind you, that first month will be a bit of a pain with an entire door!

 

[MdB]

Our internal door has two coats on it. It could probably do with another now (a year later) but it can wait.

 

[worms]

boiled and raw is the same price down the garden centre, that price being expensive.

but not down the feed merchants!

Edit: From memory, Raw Linseed oil in the feed merchants is about 17.00 for 5 litres. Online prices suggest about 25.00 for 5l Raw or boiled linseed oil for DIY use, or about 13.00 for 0.5l for raw linseed oil for human consumption! :shock:

The DIY sites suggest that boiled linseed will leave more of a varnished sheen, while raw will soak in completely to leave a natural wood finish.

 

[robgil]

i shall have to seek out some feed merchants , i gave 3.99 for 500ml.
oooh , i dont really want a shiny finish either. i might bring it back tomorrow.

 

[robgil]

finished. it took a while but i got round to it in the end.
i used boiled linseed oil and it did come out glossy but it looks ok.

some before , during and afters.

now my next problem is i need to scarf new wood into the bottom of the frame and find a way to seal the door up as i can see day light showing between the planks.

 

[robgil]

oh , and interestingly there is an old cottage in another part of the village with A.R. carved into the fireplace.it could be the same person although different hand writing.

 

[worms]

boiled and raw is the same price down the garden centre, that price being expensive.

but not down the feed merchants!

Edit: From memory, Raw Linseed oil in the feed merchants is about 17.00 for 5 litres. Online prices suggest about 25.00 for 5l Raw or boiled linseed oil for DIY use, or about 13.00 for 0.5l for raw linseed oil for human consumption! :shock:

The DIY sites suggest that boiled linseed will leave more of a varnished sheen, while raw will soak in completely to leave a natural wood finish.

Now here's a strange thing... I was in the feed merchants today and the 5L linseed oil, that I bought last autumn at £17.00 is now £44.00! I got them to check the price and they assure me there is no mistake. On-line prices don't seem to have changed, so it can't be a general price increase, perhaps the feed guys have just woken up to the potential to rip off the horsey set! Time to check out the other feed merchants, methinks!

PS. Door looks good, Robgil!