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Oh Phil have you really no more sense than this? Geoffrey is trying hard to be pleasant, to include you, to let you show how much you know. Stop being an idiot.
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Only my wife gets the last word... whether she's right or wrong! Thank God for the deafness!!
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Well - you make it sound like a conspiracy, I'm interested in the woodworking stuff. I know it's a bit esoteric (?) but the views show others are interested - I think. Maybe French Cutter has some other connotation
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Well I'm interested, as you very well know - but all I got last night in answer to questions was unpleasantness! There's little point in posting here to say how much you know without then actually occasionally imparting some of that information, is there?
I'm interested in the history and the development of windows, and the associated joinery - shutters, internal and external, for example. I'm wondering about re-instating the external shutters on our house, although I admit I haven't any idea really of how they were - however, the metal work still exists. ome large per downstairs window. There are internal shutters though in those rooms too, although not upstairs.
I'm interested in the history and the development of windows, and the associated joinery - shutters, internal and external, for example. I'm wondering about re-instating the external shutters on our house, although I admit I haven't any idea really of how they were - however, the metal work still exists. ome large per downstairs window. There are internal shutters though in those rooms too, although not upstairs.
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I've just worked out what you mean - the telly is loud as you're deaf, not because your spindle is in the living room. I had visions of bits of steel in the sofa
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You could lose a lot of digits with that, Biff!
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Hello
It has never been my intention to offend anyone, but I have become tired of self proclaimed experts undermining the skills of hardworking journeymen.
All my working life I wanted to know the old skills and ways of doing things. I specialise in circular work and in particular circle on circle, (plan & elevation).
The number of times I have arrived to take dimensions for circular work measuring the chord and springing only to be told that the "last chaps scribed the arch onto a piece of card) The correct method is using geometry.
Who would you trust to undertake the job?
The sash pocket is the best means of determining competency.
It has never been my intention to offend anyone, but I have become tired of self proclaimed experts undermining the skills of hardworking journeymen.
All my working life I wanted to know the old skills and ways of doing things. I specialise in circular work and in particular circle on circle, (plan & elevation).
The number of times I have arrived to take dimensions for circular work measuring the chord and springing only to be told that the "last chaps scribed the arch onto a piece of card) The correct method is using geometry.
Who would you trust to undertake the job?
The sash pocket is the best means of determining competency.
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Ha Ha
We have just moved into sheltered accomodation, can you imagine getting a 3/4 ton Warco Ultimatum up the stairs??
We have just moved into sheltered accomodation, can you imagine getting a 3/4 ton Warco Ultimatum up the stairs??
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Phil/chippy,
Biff jumped on the post and condemned a man for WANTING INFERIOR WINDOWS.
Get that? Got that? GOOD.
spend half an hour re-reading, you condemned an innocent man.
Biff jumped on the post and condemned a man for WANTING INFERIOR WINDOWS.
Get that? Got that? GOOD.
spend half an hour re-reading, you condemned an innocent man.
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Well, you've offended me, you've offended Biff I'm sure, and I doubt Jerry is over thrilled with you. That's three for starters. You did say no-one on this site had a clue about sash windows - not actually true, is it? And if it wasn't your intention to offend it certainly seemed like it.
No-one is disputing craftsmanship is required, the old skills and knowledge need to be retained and passed on. I think you would have had a very ready audience here had you bothered to actually impart imformation, post pictures. Trade secrets are all very well, but no use if they die with those holding them failing to impart them.
So how about those pictures?
No-one is disputing craftsmanship is required, the old skills and knowledge need to be retained and passed on. I think you would have had a very ready audience here had you bothered to actually impart imformation, post pictures. Trade secrets are all very well, but no use if they die with those holding them failing to impart them.
So how about those pictures?
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And woman actually... but hey, why be confused by the truth when you can be blinded by your own prejudice?
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Joiners work to the architectural rule of measurement.
Potters craft, Joiners don't!
Potters craft, Joiners don't!
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No - obviously then you aren't a craftsman. You join bits of wood together, that's all.
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Thats EXACTLY what I do!!!
And Evelyn, thats what everyone else thinks about joiners. (if I had the tools I could do it myself!) sort of thing.
Folk will pay £30 plus for a plumber or electrician... but when it comes to a joiner who has more tools, equipment, knowledge and consequently expenses, they are horrified at the virtual robbery!!!
Oh the absolute priviledge of working for an old company that has millions of pounds of assets! thankfully it saves us from having to sell to folk like YOU!!!
And Evelyn, thats what everyone else thinks about joiners. (if I had the tools I could do it myself!) sort of thing.
Folk will pay £30 plus for a plumber or electrician... but when it comes to a joiner who has more tools, equipment, knowledge and consequently expenses, they are horrified at the virtual robbery!!!
Oh the absolute priviledge of working for an old company that has millions of pounds of assets! thankfully it saves us from having to sell to folk like YOU!!!
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Thnkfully, Phil, we have such a joinery firm in my locality. They are rare but not unique.
I suggest you read what Schoolmarm has to say. I think that you owe Biff an apology, and a number of others in fact.
I suggest you read what Schoolmarm has to say. I think that you owe Biff an apology, and a number of others in fact.
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ZZZZZ............... Time for bed said Bagpuss!!!