Period sheds

[LadyArowana]

Yes folks, it's that time again.... Shed of the Year http://www.readersheds.co.uk/

 

[JoceAndChris]

Oh sweet! here's my entry, though the contents seem to be spilled all over the lawn.

 

[atticman]

Don't talk to me about sheds!!

I'm in the process of going through a few hundred pounds of Planning Permission costs because I have the temerity to want to put a shed up in front of my house, at the bottom of the garden, behind a 1.5m thick, 2.5m high privet hedge!

 

[discobarry]

Atticman, who would possibly know you are putting a shed there unless you tell them you are?

 

[LadyArowana]

Don't talk to me about sheds!!

I'm in the process of going through a few hundred pounds of Planning Permission costs because I have the temerity to want to put a shed up in front of my house, at the bottom of the garden, behind a 1.5m thick, 2.5m high privet hedge!

If it's on wheels is it still a shed that needs PP? Just sayin'

 

[atticman]

All my muttering and incantations directed at the local Council must have worked........ I got my Planning Permission yesterday!!

And the over-riding reason for granting the permission?

"The proposed site for the shed is situated behind thick hedging and will not be seen from the road"!!

Aye Caramba!! Why do we bother sometimes..............

 

[Penners]

I may be out of date on this (as with everything else) but I was under the impression that a shed doesn't need Planning Consent or Building Regs, as it is classed as a temporary structure.

Mind you, I suppose if you're building your shed on some sort of foundations, this might nullify that classification.

Can anyone clarify this for me, please?

 

[Keithj]

"Permitted development" was how I understood sheds. Them's the rules round here, anyway. PP not needed provided some basic guidelines are met, about height, location and the like. For householders only, though. I've been going through the agony of PP for a churchyard shed, out of sight in the woodland at the bottom of the churchyard, to replace the concrete garage and the old shiplap thing up against the building. Churches don't have permitted development rights (although I've suggested it to the Red Tape people at 10 Downing Street).

We had some trouble with the planners about the Grade 1 listing and how the shed had to be compatible with that. Fortunately, the Conservation Officer and the Archdeacon could answer that one. Then it was "Flood Risk Assessment" - for a shed in a churchyard. Near a stream I agree, but many feet higher than the stream. It was easier to do one than argue.

 

[Keith Bowman]

I may be out of date on this (as with everything else) but I was under the impression that a shed doesn't need Planning Consent or Building Regs, as it is classed as a temporary structure.

Mind you, I suppose if you're building your shed on some sort of foundations, this might nullify that classification.

Can anyone clarify this for me, please?

I can't clarify it, but I can add that putting it within the curtilage of a listed building can mean the full rigmarole of site plans, elevations, colour, LBC etc.

 

[Gareth Hughes]

I may be out of date on this (as with everything else) but I was under the impression that a shed doesn't need Planning Consent or Building Regs, as it is classed as a temporary structure.

Mind you, I suppose if you're building your shed on some sort of foundations, this might nullify that classification.

Can anyone clarify this for me, please?

I can't clarify it, but I can add that putting it within the curtilage of a listed building can mean the full rigmarole of site plans, elevations, colour, LBC etc.

If it's within the curtilage of a listed building, it will need planning permission, but unless you are doing work to the LB as well, it will not require LBC.
Similarly, if the shed is going to be between a house (unlisted) and any public highway or open space onto which the house fronts, it may well not be permitted development.

 

[Ebenezer]

I may be out of date on this (as with everything else) but I was under the impression that a shed doesn't need Planning Consent or Building Regs, as it is classed as a temporary structure.

Mind you, I suppose if you're building your shed on some sort of foundations, this might nullify that classification.

Can anyone clarify this for me, please?

Could be in a conservation area.

 

[Zebra]

I may be out of date on this (as with everything else) but I was under the impression that a shed doesn't need Planning Consent or Building Regs, as it is classed as a temporary structure.

Planning permission is needed for a shed if it is in a conservation area.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/outbuildings

 

[Penners]

I may be out of date on this (as with everything else) but I was under the impression that a shed doesn't need Planning Consent or Building Regs, as it is classed as a temporary structure.

Can anyone clarify this for me, please?

I can't clarify it, but I can add that putting it within the curtilage of a listed building can mean the full rigmarole of site plans, elevations, colour, LBC etc.

If it's within the curtilage of a listed building, it will need planning permission, but unless you are doing work to the LB as well, it will not require LBC.
Similarly, if the shed is going to be between a house (unlisted) and any public highway or open space onto which the house fronts, it may well not be permitted development.

Thanks GH and everyone else.

Our house is not listed and the shed I have been considering building* would be about 25m away from the house in the back garden (well away from any boundary or public road/space). Judging by the collected wisdom of the above responses, I gather that I wouldn't need Planning Consent, provided the building falls within the restrictions of Permitted Development.

* Please note the word "considering". In my case this implies a very lengthy period of cogitation, invariably ending in complete inaction.

 

[Ebenezer]

I may be out of date on this (as with everything else) but I was under the impression that a shed doesn't need Planning Consent or Building Regs, as it is classed as a temporary structure.

Planning permission is needed for a shed if it is in a conservation area.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/outbuildings

Beat you by 1 minute

 

[Keithj]

There seems to be some other funny rule about "intent". When the local planners got all miffy, the owner of the "old rectory" next door offered to put up a shed, just over the boundary, within his "permitted development". The planner insisted that would NOT be "permitted development" because the "primary purpose" was to evade planning regulations. She may, of course, have been making it up as she went along. We didn't bother to find out.

 

[Penners]

It strikes me as decidedly odd to suggest that someone would spend a significant amount of money erecting a shed for the primary purpose of evading planning regulations.

 

[Keithj]

Quite so! The primary need is to store floral art stuff, spare tables and chairs, a couple of old pews, and the like.
A wooden shed, we were told, would be "inappropriate" and a brick or stone building with a tiled roof more in keeping.

The existing is a concrete garage and a tiny wooden shed.

Anyway, planning app is in, but not listed on the council's planning portal. We wait to see.

 

[Zebra]

Well good luck. Our local planning department, instead of responding to a friend's planning application in the supposed 8 weeks, has taken 28 weeks so far and he still hasn't got an answer!

 

[Keith Bowman]

Well good luck. Our local planning department, instead of responding to a friend's planning application in the supposed 8 weeks, has taken 28 weeks so far and he still hasn't got an answer!

Doesn't that mean he can go ahead by default?

 

[Penners]

Well good luck. Our local planning department, instead of responding to a friend's planning application in the supposed 8 weeks, has taken 28 weeks so far and he still hasn't got an answer!

Surely the planning department's letter of acknowledgement will detail the timescale of the council's response, and the recourse available to the applicant if that timescale is not adhered to.