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Leave well enough alone.
It's not as if I don't have better things to do.
But I have this pot.
the tall ghostly one on the left which I bought on eBay. Minton. 42" tall and 15" at the base (across the flats).
It's going up here
Why, when there is a pot in-situ?
Well.
Wales.
Or the part of Wales from which 'my' builders originate, is 60 miles away.
So here we are
Same pot. But taller. See?
Actually, the pot that's up there is the twin of the small pot standing next to the big pot in the top pic.
Y'see, back in time to when I was using a local builder who turned out to be an expensive bodger. He put that pot up there when there was no pot at all. Just the coping with a huge opening where the rain came in and fell onto the fire grate. So he put the pot up there.
As the opening in the coping was so wide he perched it, quite cleverly, on four stainless angle brackets. But after he left, there was a leak.
So I get up there again, not easy as it's beyond the ladder extension really, but anyway, his flaunching only extended properly around three sides of the pot. Perhaps he ran out of mix.
Now we decide to put in a woodburner. The installer also came from Welsh Wales, about 60 miles. My Welsh builder knew him.
He said the pot had to come off so he could fix the liner. He used a clamp plate.
He wasn't happy doing the flaunching with lime, so my builder was going to come and do it. But he was late. We were using the installer's ladder. The installer was hopping around, he had to get home (60 miles) to collect his wife's car from MOT.
My builder arrived. Tottered up the ladder with the pot on his shoulder.
But now the cunning angle brackets can't be used, the pot is sitting down on the same level as the clamp plate. Submerged about a foot. It looks daft.
We could have sorted it, but the builder (60 miles) and the installer (60 miles) both want to get home. In a moment of weakness I let him flaunch it in.
It looks daft. Every time I look at it, it annoys me.
The insurers (thatch) want a 6' chimney height. I want the pot raised. So I buy the tall pot.
Now I have to do the job myself. And get a scaffolder. A lot of scaffolding. Well, that's arranged.
There is no chance of getting the existing pot out of there. The coping is Cotswold stone and quite soft, fragile. So I'm going to destroy the existing pot with an angle grinder and chisel and sit the new pot on it. It will sit part on the old pot and part on the coping.
I anticipate having to level off the top surface so the pot sits well.
Question (phew, he's coming to the point at last..)
Should I sit it on a bed of slates & lime?
Or a bed of flat tiles and lime?
Then having sat it, there's the flaunching. The coping is soft, so I think not cement. I think to use NHL 5/sharp in a 1:3.
We were at Llanthony for a couple of days recently, wife's significant birthday.
http://www.llanthonyprioryhotel.co.uk/
It's G1 listed.
Across from our room there's this chimney. See how it's flaunched with layers of tile.
Never seen this before. But it's G1 listed. So this must be a 'good thing'?
Second and last question:
Is this a good idea?
Oh, and my builder, the Welsh builder, is my ex-builder.
Not that we fell out, but this and other instances highlighted the downside of a builder with a 60 mile commute. He arrives late. And by 1500h he's thinking of going home. Long drive, traffic. So things get rushed.
Like the pot.
Ivor
It's not as if I don't have better things to do.
But I have this pot.
the tall ghostly one on the left which I bought on eBay. Minton. 42" tall and 15" at the base (across the flats).
It's going up here
Why, when there is a pot in-situ?
Well.
Wales.
Or the part of Wales from which 'my' builders originate, is 60 miles away.
So here we are
Same pot. But taller. See?
Actually, the pot that's up there is the twin of the small pot standing next to the big pot in the top pic.
Y'see, back in time to when I was using a local builder who turned out to be an expensive bodger. He put that pot up there when there was no pot at all. Just the coping with a huge opening where the rain came in and fell onto the fire grate. So he put the pot up there.
As the opening in the coping was so wide he perched it, quite cleverly, on four stainless angle brackets. But after he left, there was a leak.
So I get up there again, not easy as it's beyond the ladder extension really, but anyway, his flaunching only extended properly around three sides of the pot. Perhaps he ran out of mix.
Now we decide to put in a woodburner. The installer also came from Welsh Wales, about 60 miles. My Welsh builder knew him.
He said the pot had to come off so he could fix the liner. He used a clamp plate.
He wasn't happy doing the flaunching with lime, so my builder was going to come and do it. But he was late. We were using the installer's ladder. The installer was hopping around, he had to get home (60 miles) to collect his wife's car from MOT.
My builder arrived. Tottered up the ladder with the pot on his shoulder.
But now the cunning angle brackets can't be used, the pot is sitting down on the same level as the clamp plate. Submerged about a foot. It looks daft.
We could have sorted it, but the builder (60 miles) and the installer (60 miles) both want to get home. In a moment of weakness I let him flaunch it in.
It looks daft. Every time I look at it, it annoys me.
The insurers (thatch) want a 6' chimney height. I want the pot raised. So I buy the tall pot.
Now I have to do the job myself. And get a scaffolder. A lot of scaffolding. Well, that's arranged.
There is no chance of getting the existing pot out of there. The coping is Cotswold stone and quite soft, fragile. So I'm going to destroy the existing pot with an angle grinder and chisel and sit the new pot on it. It will sit part on the old pot and part on the coping.
I anticipate having to level off the top surface so the pot sits well.
Question (phew, he's coming to the point at last..)
Should I sit it on a bed of slates & lime?
Or a bed of flat tiles and lime?
Then having sat it, there's the flaunching. The coping is soft, so I think not cement. I think to use NHL 5/sharp in a 1:3.
We were at Llanthony for a couple of days recently, wife's significant birthday.
http://www.llanthonyprioryhotel.co.uk/
It's G1 listed.
Across from our room there's this chimney. See how it's flaunched with layers of tile.
Never seen this before. But it's G1 listed. So this must be a 'good thing'?
Second and last question:
Is this a good idea?
Oh, and my builder, the Welsh builder, is my ex-builder.
Not that we fell out, but this and other instances highlighted the downside of a builder with a 60 mile commute. He arrives late. And by 1500h he's thinking of going home. Long drive, traffic. So things get rushed.
Like the pot.
Ivor