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its not listed , but its in a conservation area.
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biffvernon
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Different.
They care about the outward appearance but not internal features.
They care about the outward appearance but not internal features.
JoceAndChris
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My flat's in a conservation area: they're strict about windows (all matching, white) and other outward appearances being kept the same. The front door colour was up to us though. The trees are protected and someone's out in a flash if litter is dumped. Old street furniture is preserved, and I believe shops are limited with what they can do.
Oh, and satellite dishes aren't allowed.
Conservation areas are great in my opinion.
Oh, and satellite dishes aren't allowed.
Conservation areas are great in my opinion.
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We're in a conservation area and my neighbour was basically forced into plastic windows throughout (which she has always vehemently hated) in order to get planning permission for a small downstairs extension, so you're definitely not totally safe on that front.. she had hope she could have wood double glazed in the new part (probably more or less mandatory nowadays I guess) and leave the rest as they were but no joy and she couldn't afford wood double glazing throughout unfortunately..
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Has the sun been too bright today? Nobody is ever forced to have plastic windows, though many are conned into buying them from plastic window salesmen.
Within a Conservation Area you will probably not be allowed to have plastic windows.
Within a Conservation Area you will probably not be allowed to have plastic windows.
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Are you sure the rule is that unequivocal? I thought dishes were allowed so long as they don't break the skyline on the roof.JoceAndChris said:Oh, and satellite dishes aren't allowed.
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Indeed, dishes can be far less intrusive than terrestrial aerials where bigger and higher is best. Conversely, dishes can be very small and located, if necessary, at ground level. All they need is line of sight to the satellite.
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I was told that due to lack of cash the local council would have no chance of enforcing any action against anyone in a conservation area.
I was told that I could replace my nasty 60s windows with anything (they would prefer timber), sat dishes are allowed as the tv reception is not good and people also use them for some forms of broadband.
Shops will still come under local planning rules and have nothing to do with a conservation areas.
The only thing that they are strict on is cutting down trees and that most decent trees have a TPO on so you can only trim the top 1m off without any contact with the council. This is in the local council area with the highest percentage of listed buildings in the country.
I was told that I could replace my nasty 60s windows with anything (they would prefer timber), sat dishes are allowed as the tv reception is not good and people also use them for some forms of broadband.
Shops will still come under local planning rules and have nothing to do with a conservation areas.
The only thing that they are strict on is cutting down trees and that most decent trees have a TPO on so you can only trim the top 1m off without any contact with the council. This is in the local council area with the highest percentage of listed buildings in the country.
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CHRIS said:Shops will still come under local planning rules and have nothing to do with a conservation areas.
Are you saying that shops do NOT come under conservation area rules?
They do, or at least in Staffordshire where I've owned several in conservation areas and the colour of the frontage, what signage etc all have to be passed and fit in with conservation area rules.
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The tolerance towards these things in Conservation areas must be hugely variable, then. I only speak of Highgate, which is very preserved and rightly has zero tolerance towards modernisation. My whole street has its Victorian windows, I can't imagine you'd be allowed to alter the appearance.
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Ok, maybe 'forced' was the wrong word, but they were left with no viable alternative if they wanted to get planning permission for what they wanted (a small, single level extension to the living space) and it was do that or move at the time I believe.. the planners insisted on double glazing throughout as a condition of planning permission and being in a conservation area was not considered suitable reason to enable them to bend the rules and allow them to keep the originals throughout the rest of the house.. I know they looked into wooden ones, and could afford them for just the extension but the budget wouldn't stretch for them to do the whole house which is what the planners stipulated.. basic point was, being in a conservation area definitely doesn't mean no plastic, i guess the rules maybe vary depending on the council
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Becka - you mean Building Regulations approval, which (I've said it before, no doubt I'll say it again) has nothing to do with planning permission.
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Is there an Article 4 directive in force? If there was, then they could and should have told the building inspector and planning officer to take a hike.
But it does depend on the council, sadly. Some are enlightened, and others are beyond the pale.
And a conservation area is a blanket thing - it includes shops, bus shelters, churches, chapels, bollards, paving stones and even trees. The squirrels appear not to know this, however.
But it does depend on the council, sadly. Some are enlightened, and others are beyond the pale.
And a conservation area is a blanket thing - it includes shops, bus shelters, churches, chapels, bollards, paving stones and even trees. The squirrels appear not to know this, however.
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skier-hughes said:CHRIS said:Shops will still come under local planning rules and have nothing to do with a conservation areas.
Are you saying that shops do NOT come under conservation area rules?
They do, or at least in Staffordshire where I've owned several in conservation areas and the colour of the frontage, what signage etc all have to be passed and fit in with conservation area rules.
Sorry I meant what could be sold not the colour etc.
Becka said:Ok, maybe 'forced' was the wrong word, but they were left with no viable alternative if they wanted to get planning permission for what they wanted (a small, single level extension to the living space) and it was do that or move at the time I believe.. the planners insisted on double glazing throughout as a condition of planning permission and being in a conservation area was not considered suitable reason to enable them to bend the rules and allow them to keep the originals throughout the rest of the house.. I know they looked into wooden ones, and could afford them for just the extension but the budget wouldn't stretch for them to do the whole house which is what the planners stipulated.. basic point was, being in a conservation area definitely doesn't mean no plastic, i guess the rules maybe vary depending on the council
Thats because our council has employed an "Energy efficiency Surveyor" and they want to be top dog in the council eco league as we were the worst a few years ago.
http://www.scenta.co.uk/eco/global_warming/cit/810162/a-very-warm-welcome-from-co-central.htm