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Grade 2 Listing
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biffvernon
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The only place you're going to get an authoritative answer about your particular house is from your Local Authority's Conservation Officer. If you want to make changes you have to get Listed Buildings Consent and it can save a lot of time, trouble and expense is you discuss your ideas with the CO before you put too much effort into your plans. Generally, think in terms of not damaging any of the historic fabric, and not altering the historic character. That does not mean that nothing can be done. Houses evolve over time and the aim of the legislation is not to preserve everything as it is and stop any development.
Penners
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Just a PS to Biff's explanation:-
This doesn't mean that you cannot carry out repairs. Like-for-like replacement of genuinely unsaveable fabric is permitted without Listed Building Consent.
If you do go ahead with the purchase, it's also in your interest to ensure that you get copies of the LBC paperwork for any alterations carried out by the previous owners. This will ensure that you are not taking on liability for any illegal work carried out previously.
This doesn't mean that you cannot carry out repairs. Like-for-like replacement of genuinely unsaveable fabric is permitted without Listed Building Consent.
If you do go ahead with the purchase, it's also in your interest to ensure that you get copies of the LBC paperwork for any alterations carried out by the previous owners. This will ensure that you are not taking on liability for any illegal work carried out previously.
Very good advise from Biff and Penners.
Some more important question are those you should ask yourself regarding the reasons you want to live in a barn:-
Is it the romantic notion of contemporary trends that you want to live in a barn.
Or is it because you love and respect old buildings and an old barn would fulfill your aims.
If the emphasis is on the latter question, and with the assistance and cooperation of the LBO, it will prove a rewarding experience also the barn will benefit with correct additions, repairs or restoration
Some more important question are those you should ask yourself regarding the reasons you want to live in a barn:-
Is it the romantic notion of contemporary trends that you want to live in a barn.
Or is it because you love and respect old buildings and an old barn would fulfill your aims.
If the emphasis is on the latter question, and with the assistance and cooperation of the LBO, it will prove a rewarding experience also the barn will benefit with correct additions, repairs or restoration
Paul Hopper
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Ravi
Following th good advice of middi,penners, biff etc., the love of an old building and its character is an experience you "feel" .
As far as the LCO is concerned, as I have posted before.. We always have set out ot make a friend of our CO, there have been several over the years, The result we found, was that when we were in doubt about something the CO was there (if only on the phone at times) to ask,
Some seem to have trouble with their CO but we have been lucky..
Try to talk straight to him/her and keep him/her informed.
they are human! really!!
Incidentally someone has offered some phenominal sum of money to buy us house!
I wonder what the catch is, since it was not even on the market.
we shall see....
Paul
Following th good advice of middi,penners, biff etc., the love of an old building and its character is an experience you "feel" .
As far as the LCO is concerned, as I have posted before.. We always have set out ot make a friend of our CO, there have been several over the years, The result we found, was that when we were in doubt about something the CO was there (if only on the phone at times) to ask,
Some seem to have trouble with their CO but we have been lucky..
Try to talk straight to him/her and keep him/her informed.
they are human! really!!
Incidentally someone has offered some phenominal sum of money to buy us house!
I wonder what the catch is, since it was not even on the market.
we shall see....
Paul
Penners
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I agree 100% with Paul. I reckon the people who have the most trouble with Conservation Officers are those who (a) regard them as some kind of enemy, and/or (b) want to damage the historic fabric of their listed building. Actually, (a) and (b) often go hand-in-hand.
If you have the right attitude to your listed building, and seek your CO's help and advice, I'm sure it will be willingly given.
If you have the right attitude to your listed building, and seek your CO's help and advice, I'm sure it will be willingly given.
I can't disagree with any of the above at all. However, correct me if I'm wrong as I don't own a listed building, but if you employ a builder or tradesman to do works under listed building consent then are you both liable to be fined if that work is not carried out as per the CO's stated method?
Point being make sure that anyone who works on your building is aware of the listed buildings act
Point being make sure that anyone who works on your building is aware of the listed buildings act
Penners
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An interesting point. I'm not sure who ultimately "carries the can" - the owner, the tradesman... or even (where appropriate) the project manager or architect. I suppose if it all devolves on to the owner, he/she could always sue the others - particularly if adherence to the CO's stipulations was specified in a contract.