Channel Five...

[Nemesis]

I can't get Ch five - no idea if it's any use or not but... this looks a bargain!


http://homes.five.tv/jsp/5hmain.jsp?lnk=450_1&programme=Build%20a%20New%20Life%20in%20the%20Country&featureid=903&show=s3e2&section=Features

 

[BMcD]

It was also featured on Project Restoration a couple of years back

http://www.projectrestoration.tv/menagerie.php

On the face of it they have picked up a bargain but this is probably due to the amount of work that needed doing and and still does. So perhaps Coventry council were keen to get shot of it before they had a listed buildings work order slapped on them.

And on another note I believe the stables next door have been bought by some one

http://www.periodproperty.co.uk/cgi-bin/discussing/forum2.pl?noframes;read=62259

 

[Nemesis]

Interesting - if it had been a building preservation trust keen to repair I suspect it would have been disposed of for the pound suggested.

Unfortunately any sort of repair notice is a rarity and councils tend not to slap them on themselves!

Thanks re the stables - will see what else I can find.

(And copies of the 2007 Buildings at Risk book still available, with an article by Gervase and stunning pics and article by Karen and Francis re Hellifield Peel)

http://www.savebritainsheritage.org

 

[BMcD]

Nemesis wrote:

Unfortunately any sort of repair notice is a rarity and councils tend not to slap them on themselves!

Although Coventry council owned the building it actually comes under Rugby council's jurisdiction so it would have been Rugby who issued the notice on Coventry had it gone that far

 

[Nemesis]

No Image Available

IoE number: 409225
Location: MENAGERIE FARMBUILDINGS TO NORTH WEST OF THE WOODLANDS
COMBE FIELDS, RUGBY, WARWICKSHIRE
Photographer: N/A
Date Photographed: N/A
Date listed: 22 November 1993
Date of last amendment: 22 November 1993
Grade II



The following building shall be added:

COMBEFIELDS COMBE ABBEY
SP 37 NE
1641-/5/10018 Menagerie farmbuildings to

The following building shall be added: COMBEFIELDS COMBE ABBEY SP 37 NE 1641-/5/10018 Menagerie farmbuildings to NW of The Woodlands GV II Menagerie farmbuildings. c1778. Built to serve the Menagerie designed by Lancelot (Capability) Brown. Red brick with plain tile roofs. Two 1-plan ranges linked by a gate. The larger northern range has a 2 storey wing to the west, with 4 segment- headed carriage arches, that to the right with double plank doors. Beyond to the right a stable door flanked by single 2-light glazing bar casements all with segment heads. Above 3 tall 2-light glazing bar casements to the eaves. Beyond to the right a slightly set back lower range with a single stable door. This range continues at right angles with a further stable door and becomes single storey with two stable doors and a shuttered opening between. The smaller southern range, single storey, with the 2 cart entrances to the north range, and 2 bricked-up cart shed entrances to the south range that to the left with a 3-light glazing bar casement. Beyond a single plank door flanked by single light glazing bar casements. These buildings are extremely rare, they were built to store food and bedding for the animals in the Menagerie, and they also provided space for sheltered winter accommodation for these exotic beasts.

Picture at

http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk

IoE number 409212

However, there is also IoE number 408998



IoE number: 408998
Location: COMBE ABBEY, STABLEBLOCK APPROXIMATELY 40 METRES NORTH EAST OF ABBEY
COMBE FIELDS, RUGBY, WARWICKSHIRE
Photographer: Mr John Barlow LRPS
Date Photographed: 27 May 2003
Date listed: 27 August 1986
Date of last amendment: 27 August 1986
Grade II



COMBEFIELDS
SP47NW
6/39 Combe Abbey, stableblock
approx. 40m. NE of Abbey
GV II

COMBEFIELDS SP47NW 6/39 Combe Abbey, stableblock approx. 40m. NE of Abbey GV II Stableblock. Late C18. Brick, in Flemish bond with ashlar dressings and hipped slate roof. Brick roof stacks. 2 storeys; 6-window range, with one window projecting central range. Central archway with rusticated quoin surround. Small doorway to right of blocked arch, with stone lintel. Round-headed recessed casements to ground storey, the one to right of arch partly blocked. Gauged brick lintels. 9-pane casements to first floor with gauged brick lintels. Pediment above. Sandstone plinth, ground and first storey bands, and a moulded eaves cornice. Wood and lead clocktower, in form of dovecote, above pediment inscribed "Vivite Fugid". Altered ranges to left, and extending forward from right. Late C19 coach house and hayloft to rear, probably designed by Nesfield. Dated 1863.

 

[BMcD]

Thought you might like to see some before and afters. Note how the chimney breast in the kitchen was widened to conceal services

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http://www.putfile.com/bmcd66/images/123486

I hope this works but let me know if it doesn't

 

[Nemesis]

Yes that works - really interesting, thank you, and another building at risk saved!

 

[Penners]

Five's 'Build a New Life in the Country' series has included some quite interesting restoration projects. Trouble is, the presentation follows the same tired old formula...

" It's December, and in the pouring rain all work has ground to a halt. Jane and Gordon have already spent their budget and I'm worried that their schedule will overshoot by several months."

*Yawn*.

 

[Nemesis]

PS

Jane kicks off by hiring a team of 5 specialist tradesmen. Her first big job is overseeing the re-plastering all the crumbling walls. She decides to use a traditional plaster - a thick lime based solution mixed in with horse's hair, which is very expensive and time consuming. And before Jane realises it she's spent £40,000 just on plaster!

And cash well spent if you ask me!

 

[Nemesis]

Actually - one of them (on Build a New Life...) is really, really bad and I wish I had bought it as I was tempted to do...

 

[Nemesis]

Back though to the plaster - it sounds a lot, but there's a great deal of it... and I wonder how much a 'damp proof specialist' (Hmmm...) would have charged for injection and cement render? Then even if modern gypsum had been used it would not have been cheap!

Why do people make out decent work in the correct materials using excellent craftspeople, which will last for a long time to come and form a major part of the character of the building, is OTT?

 

[Gervase]

PS

J... And before Jane realises it she's spent £40,000 just on plaster!

Flippin' 'eck, though, that is a lot of plaster. At around £140 a tonne, that's getting on for 275 tonnes of plaster which would cover more than 11,000 square metres as a scratch coat! :shock:

 

[Nemesis]

I suspect that involves a plasterer and his skilled time also!

 

[Gervase]

Wish I'd tendered for that job!!!

 

[Nemesis]

It possibly also involves a few square metres of oak or chestnut lath.

In which case thirty nine grand for lath and the rest on plaster...

 

[Penners]

Wish I'd tendered for that job!!!

I heard that you don't get out of bed for less than £50k. Short of work, are you?

 

[Nemesis]

Oh - I heard he didn't get into bed for less than that... but that has nothing to do with plastering, and may just be a wild Welsh rumour...

 

[Gervase]

'ere, missus, our Lleyn sheep don't have the sort of dosh that your fancy Herdwicks can lay hooves on y'know!

 

[BMcD]

In total Labour costs would easily have topped 20k if you take into account hacking off all the gypsum and waterproofing plaster first. Then the materials included spatterdash, dubbing out, scratch coat, float and set for maybe 1500m2 then laths plus sundries and a bit on top for artistic licence to give the programme a bit of "jeopardy" as they say and hey presto £40k on plastering

 

[Gervase]

It possibly also involves a few square metres of oak or chestnut lath.

In which case thirty nine grand for lath and the rest on plaster...

Hmm, I got a nice job lot of riven oak lath on eBay a couple of months back for £15. Enough to do about 10 square metres.