Another Cupboard

[wobs]

Following on from Feltwell's horribly abused cupboards, here are mine. The doors are from a local salvage yard, and fit nicely into the space, and the beading matches the doors in the house. The rest is new.

-The picture doesn't pick up many inperfections, but you get the idea.

Upper shelves done in 28mm timberboard

This is a work in progress:


Couple of almost interesting points about the job:
* Both side walls are hollow. The left with the cornicing is probably latt & plaster (which is weird as the same wall further along is solid). The right hand side is stud wall that was fitted to split the master bedroom when the previous owner had an additional offspring. This left the gap you see, which was calling out to be made into storage, and the stud work arrangement bascially gives us a nice sized bedroom and study, so we'll be keeping it.

* The skirting comes away underneath the doors. This is something I also did in the last house, as it allows us to store heavy objects (eg. large tool box or sewing machine) and lift it out with ease. They use two detachable hinges I got from a chap who makes gig gear. It still needs a bit of tweaking though, but will work well when finished.

So the question is, what do we paint/coat it with? Obviously, the skirting needs to be white to match the other skirting, and I was thinking white for the new wood around the edge (maybe), but what of the inside and the doors? It would seem a shame to paint them after they were dipped, but they aren't perfect. There are blotches, and a bit of damage to them, but I was never going to find better around here for this job.

That said, nearly all the internal doors in the house have been done badly in some way, so maybe it would be in keeping with the rest of the house!

 

[Feltwell]

Very good Wobs. I've got a not dissimilar job to do - I picked up an old built in larder cupboard ( very similar to the original one in my kitchen that I posted up before) from a house that was being demolished, that's just the right size to go across the end of my downstairs loo to hide all the plumbing and the Central heating boiler. I was lucky enough to get the frame as well, but I'm not convinced it will all clean up well enough to have as a waxed wood finish, I may need to paint it.

I think you'd have the Devils own job getting your new frame to match the colour of the doors, but I suspect that having a painted frame and waxed doors will look odd. But I also understand the reluctance to paint the stripped doors!

Why not paint the frame, leaving the doors as they are for now, and see how it looks? Then you can make the final call on the doors. I wouldn't worry about them not being perfect, they look fine, no one else will notice.

 

[mims&pip]

Lovely job, Wobs

At previous houses - particularly our Victorian place on the South Coast - we went all out for the stripped & waxed look. I spent (or wasted, depending on your particular POV) literally weeks of my life hand stripping (back in the days when nitromors was worth using) a very large staircase that travelled through several floors and mezzanines, only to realise when finished that it didn't look *right* somehow*. We also stripped doors and purchased reclaimed kitchen cupboards in a similar style, but after living with the look a few years - this was the early noughties- we decided to paint over it all and sold the pine cupboards (first forays into fleabay :roll: ). Good job I stopped short at stripping the six foot kitchen dresser and I don't think I could have stomached painting over yet more of my handiwork!

Since then we've been more inclined to embrace the painted look, although this is the first house since that has had a cupboard I would have previously felt inclined to strip. It's a rather nice built-in linen press (see pics on my house pics thread!) rather like Feltwell's and indeed your own. Maybe in this house it's the fact that there is sooooo much white woodwork (not forgetting the White painted Crittall Windows) where previously we've had oak joinery or inherited nasty colours that are calling out to be painted a suitably period colour, I actually think it suits the style of the house......or at least that's my excuse, lol :lol:

I agree with Feltwell that you're probably going to struggle to match new timber with old, but I would also give it a try first as you can always paint over it later if it doesn't work out.

Mims x

* Obviously it was never intended for the joinery to go unpainted in such a grand house.

 

[wobs]

Thank for the replies.

I've got some Osmo Clear stuff for another job, so might try some samples of Osmo's different shades, and give it a try.

 

[Feltwell]

Wobs - I've just tried Liberon Antique Pine spirit-based wood dye on new wood, and it's given quite reasonable results on the colour match to the original pine. You can still tell the difference, but it's a lot less noticeable once waxed.

Might be worth you trying some on a bit of scrap wood. Make sure you get the spirit wood dye, they also do a water based version that apparently is pretty awful. Loads on Ebay.

 

[wobs]

So on your advice I got some Liberon AP SB WD. I had also got some Osmo tints (Honey).

On testing them on scrap bits of wood, the Liberon looked rather dark brown, and not particularly good, so opted for the Osmo for both doors and new wood surround.

While not expecting a great match, and on a steep learning curve, I did one coat on the doors, and two on the new wood. The second coat seemed to make little difference.

So I tried again on more scrap wood with both, and tried applying the Liberon onto the Osmo. This seems to give a much better colour, although it was applied only about half an hour after applying the Osmo. While I wasn't expecting a perfect match, it was far more acceptable.

Will try applying the Liberon tonight on the new wood.

 

[Longdogs]

Lovely job, Wobs

At previous houses - particularly our Victorian place on the South Coast - we went all out for the stripped & waxed look. I spent (or wasted, depending on your particular POV) literally weeks of my life hand stripping (back in the days when nitromors was worth using) a very large staircase that travelled through several floors and mezzanines, only to realise when finished that it didn't look *right* somehow*. We also stripped doors and purchased reclaimed kitchen cupboards in a similar style, but after living with the look a few years - this was the early noughties- we decided to paint over it all and sold the pine cupboards (first forays into fleabay :roll: ). Good job I stopped short at stripping the six foot kitchen dresser and I don't think I could have stomached painting over yet more of my handiwork!

Since then we've been more inclined to embrace the painted look, although this is the first house since that has had a cupboard I would have previously felt inclined to strip. It's a rather nice built-in linen press (see pics on my house pics thread!) rather like Feltwell's and indeed your own. Maybe in this house it's the fact that there is sooooo much white woodwork (not forgetting the White painted Crittall Windows) where previously we've had oak joinery or inherited nasty colours that are calling out to be painted a suitably period colour, I actually think it suits the style of the house......or at least that's my excuse, lol :lol:

I agree with Feltwell that you're probably going to struggle to match new timber with old, but I would also give it a try first as you can always paint over it later if it doesn't work out.

Mims x

* Obviously it was never intended for the joinery to go unpainted in such a grand house.

Tbh, I don't think all your hard work has been wasted. Although you have painted over everything, I m sure the result is better than if you had not stripped it all first. I have spent weeks stripping virtually all the paint my house because the previous owners had slapped some dodgy paint on before selling. I don't know what they used but it just flakes off and the vacuum cleaner takes it off in lumps. Like you, I thought I was sort of wasting my time knowing that it would be re-painted but I am glad I did it.

 

[88v8]

I stripped most of our previous house because it had been overpainted without proper preparation and, as you say, flaked off at a touch.

The repaint was done with oil primer - flat down - oil undercoat - flat down - oil top (initially gloss but later in our 30 year ownership I moved over to eggshell, or a mix of gloss and eggshell) with two top coats, flatting down between.

Due I think to all the flatting, the paint was easy to keep clean, I never repainted a room in the 30 years we were there.

Ivor