And the windows came back out again...

[paulb33]

Drama today. The new windows are coming back out. Screw up with a tape measure. Never a dull moment. Chin up, I guess. :roll:

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[plasticpigeon]

You are right, but also I must say I think you have found an excellent team of joiners there.

 

[kreyszig]

how frustrating! Better that it's sorted now than you spend the next 20 years looking at them ruefully!

 

[paulb33]

Without doubt. I was astonished as the joiners arrived with amended sashes this morning. That's more than 400 pane reveals to rout & reputty.

 

[paulb33]

how frustrating! Better that it's sorted now than you spend the next 20 years looking at them ruefully!

That was my fear Kreyszig. I'm actually a 'path of least resistance' kinda guy. But, it would have chewed me up forever after.

 

[Penners]

I'm actually a 'path of least resistance' kinda guy.

Paul, that's clearly a gross misrepresentation of your eye for, and insistence on the correctness of, detail. That's a very special house and it's good to know that it's in the hands of someone who cares about such minutiae.

Windows are vital to the look of a house. The average person won't often notice them for their own sake, but if they're wrong they make the look of the whole building somehow uncomfortable.

 

[88v8]

Lawks a mercy!!
But why on earth do you have to use laminated?????
Is it so that burglars won't hurt themselves??

Ivor

 

[jocelyn plummer]

How very fortunate you are to have a team of joiners who showed willingness to put right the error! Not many would be so co-operative.

 

[paulb33]

Lawks a mercy!!
But why on earth do you have to use laminated?????
Is it so that burglars won't hurt themselves??

Ivor

I know, Ivor. Its a tough one. (Pun intended..)

Somewhat a concession for building regs, security and comfort. The house was designed with a large emphasis on the glazing. Edwardian Freestyle with the emerging emphasis on "the vista" of the time - globe trotters bringing photos from around the world encouraged views across the garden, large floor to ceiling windows, etc. The current day consequence is that many of the windows need toughened glass to be compliant with building regs. I have three kids under 8 terrorizing the place. It also helps thermal and accoustic transmission, just a little... Don't forget, I could still be forced to use double glazed units under Part L (?)... :shock:

As debated on other threads, I thought long and hard over the glazing. In the end, the consensus was that the relatively small panes would be more forgiving. It was an extra £6k for wobbly glass.

 

[paulb33]

I'm actually a 'path of least resistance' kinda guy.

Paul, that's clearly a gross misrepresentation of your eye for, and insistence on the correctness of, detail. That's a very special house and it's good to know that it's in the hands of someone who cares about such minutiae.

Windows are vital to the look of a house. The average person won't often notice them for their own sake, but if they're wrong they make the look of the whole building somehow uncomfortable.

Bless you, Penners. This is being done with a VERY tight budget. I reckon we're two months from finishing and I have to find £2k somewhere to pay the invoices. So, I'm balancing my fussiness with a need to keep my trades on board. A delicate dance. But, this issue crossed the line.

I also have to keep my family and friends on board. I'm surrounded by folks who are supportive but (understandably) think I'm a bit obsessed. "I think it looks fine" is a common refrain. I know that won't come as a big surprise to anyone on this board...

 

[paulb33]

I'm actually a 'path of least resistance' kinda guy.

Paul, that's clearly a gross misrepresentation of your eye for, and insistence on the correctness of, detail. That's a very special house and it's good to know that it's in the hands of someone who cares about such minutiae.

Windows are vital to the look of a house. The average person won't often notice them for their own sake, but if they're wrong they make the look of the whole building somehow uncomfortable.

Bless you, Penners. This is being done with a VERY tight budget. I reckon we're two months from finishing and I have to find £2k somewhere to pay the invoices. So, I'm balancing my fussiness with a need to keep my trades on board. A delicate dance. But, this issue crossed the line.

I also have to keep my family and friends on board. I'm surrounded by folks who are supportive but (understandably) think I'm a bit obsessed. "I think it looks fine" is a common refrain. I know that won't come as a big surprise to anyone on this board...

Sorry: duplicate post.

 

[88v8]

It was an extra £6k for wobbly glass.

Which I would have spent. If glazing bars bother you, glass bothers me far more.
Easy to say of course, not my money.

But with such deep glazing bars, the glaziers can set the glass awonk, so it doesn't give a uniform reflection. I commend this to you.

Ivor

 

[paulb33]

It was an extra £6k for wobbly glass.

Which I would have spent. If glazing bars bother you, glass bothers me far more.
Easy to say of course, not my money.

But with such deep glazing bars, the glaziers can set the glass awonk, so it doesn't give a uniform reflection. I commend this to you.

Ivor

I know, I know. But, I'm past that with the glazing.

I specifically instructed them to set it awonk, as you advised. The rushed re-glazing probably encouraged this too.

It wouldnt have happened if I had to find another £6k. We've waited 11 years and I suspect this is the one chance I have as custodian to do this. Thank an unexpected windfall for that. And, glazing CAN be changed quite easily.

 

[88v8]

And, glazing CAN be changed quite easily.

Take your point.

Yes, one could change the glass, a few windows a year, but it's only easy while the putty is still softish. Not so easy once it's hard.

Ivor

 

[paulb33]

And, glazing CAN be changed quite easily.

Take your point.

Yes, one could change the glass, a few windows a year, but it's only easy while the putty is still softish. Not so easy once it's hard.

Ivor

There had to be compromise. And, here it was. Still think it was the right all. Many of the windows HAD to be laminated from a building regs and safety standpoint.

All that said, donations to the "Restore the Red House restored windows" fund are welcome.. 8)

 

[Penners]

I'm happy to donate my good wishes.

 

[plasticpigeon]

I have some wobbly glass if you want it. I have run out of perseverance with my house. I don't intend to replace any panes unless they are broken.

 

[paulb33]

I have some wobbly glass if you want it. I have run out of perseverance with my house. I don't intend to replace any panes unless they are broken.

Thanks PP. I'm not sure the joiners will agree to take the panes out once more.. :wink:

 

[Penners]

No, that would be a real...er....pain.